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       #Post#: 11955--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is an Individual Capable of Running a State if he Doesn't
       Know the Obvious?
   DIR By: ecsmith2
       Date: February 25, 2014, 7:13 pm
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       --- Quote from: Mr.steve link ---
       >
       > Here is my post to snorfin:
       > This is what snorfin responds with:
       > Can I find someone willing to take the time to explain to
       snorfin the "difference" between  THINGS  and WHO?!?  I am pro
       life but there are some people that make me second guess that
       stance.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I don't like those ten for the things they have done, or
       absences of doing when they could have done.  Take you pick of
       what things.
       You are not worth the trouble to list what I have Mr.steve.
       You saying I am partisan doesn't make it so.  Producing some
       evidence might do it.  When are you going to back up your
       statement I disagree with?  So we can discuss it?  This is a
       discussion forum, after all.
       :)
       #Post#: 11956--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is an Individual Capable of Running a State if he Doesn't
       Know the Obvious?
   DIR By: wmd102
       Date: February 25, 2014, 7:17 pm
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       --- Quote from: ecsmith2 link ---
       >
       > 1   Pelosi
       > 2   Reid
       > 3   Boxer
       > 4   Feinstein
       > 5   Waxman
       > 6   Durbin
       > 7   Schakowski
       > 8   Levin
       > 9   Hagen
       > 10 Schumer
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       So, where would you rank Sandra Korn on this list?
       #Post#: 11957--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is an Individual Capable of Running a State if he Doesn't
       Know the Obvious?
   DIR By: ecsmith2
       Date: February 25, 2014, 7:35 pm
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       --- Quote from: wmd102 link ---
       >
       > So, where would you rank Sandra Korn on this list?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Don't read the Harvard Crimson, and never heard of her until
       your posting.  Not terribly impress about what she is being
       credited for saying.
       Biggest problem with both parties is they are not really doing
       anything terribly bad, but are in bed with each other keeping
       the political status quo and keeping each other in power.
       Congress is at all time low approval ratings.  The leadership in
       Congress should have been replaced long ago, but the parties
       determine who those people are and when they get those
       positions.  Reid, Pelosi, McConnell and Boehner all should be
       replaced.
       Parties don't want that to happen.  I dislike the parties
       controlling our government.
       #Post#: 11958--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is an Individual Capable of Running a State if he Doesn't
       Know the Obvious?
   DIR By: Snickers
       Date: February 25, 2014, 7:36 pm
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       EC/Atouk is a liberal partisan.
       He has more then proven that through his posts.
       His saying he is not...... does not make it so.
       #Post#: 11972--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is an Individual Capable of Running a State if he Doesn't
       Know the Obvious?
   DIR By: ecsmith2
       Date: February 25, 2014, 11:20 pm
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       --- Quote from: Snickers link ---
       >
       > EC/Atouk is a liberal partisan.
       >
       > He has more then proven that through his posts.
       > His saying he is not...... does not make it so.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       No, I'm not.
       You can't prove it.
       #Post#: 11973--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is an Individual Capable of Running a State if he Doesn't
       Know the Obvious?
   DIR By: ecsmith2
       Date: February 25, 2014, 11:23 pm
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       --- Quote from: Mr.steve link ---
       >
       > Here is my post to snorfin:
       > This is what snorfin responds with:
       > Can I find someone willing to take the time to explain to
       snorfin the "difference" between  THINGS  and WHO?!?  I am pro
       life but there are some people that make me second guess that
       stance.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       What possible rational reason do you have for not believing that
       I am what I say I am when you have no possible way to prove me
       wrong?
       #Post#: 11980--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is an Individual Capable of Running a State if he Doesn't
       Know the Obvious?
   DIR By: wmd102
       Date: February 26, 2014, 6:50 am
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       L
       --- Quote from: ecsmith2 link ---
       >
       >
       > What possible rational reason do you have for not believing
       that I am what I say I am when you have no possible way to prove
       me wrong?
       >
       >
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Could it be that you worked for the UW  and some how amassed
       enough money to by Arkansas real estate? Does the UW hire
       conservatives? Furthermore, is there any position you advocate
       that isn't liberal? I think answering those three questions
       would shed some light on the debate.
       #Post#: 11984--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is an Individual Capable of Running a State if he Doesn't
       Know the Obvious?
   DIR By: Sheila
       Date: February 26, 2014, 7:41 am
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       Would someone please, other than Atouk, define "liberal".
       Would someone, other than Atouk, define "conservative".
       Would someone, anyone, please explain how a person can be
       "pro-life" and also be ok with engaging in war, or military
       conflicts...whatever the label for such death and destruction.
       #Post#: 11986--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is an Individual Capable of Running a State if he Doesn't
       Know the Obvious?
   DIR By: trollslayer
       Date: February 26, 2014, 8:01 am
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       --- Quote from: Sheila link ---
       >
       > Would someone please, other than Atouk, define "liberal".
       > Would someone, other than Atouk, define "conservative".
       > Would someone, anyone, please explain how a person can be
       "pro-life" and also be ok with engaging in war, or military
       conflicts...whatever the label for such death and destruction.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Looking at the last part of your post I find myself asking, how
       can somebody be "pro life" yet seem to want to use drones in
       foreign countries without impunity?
       How can somebody be "pro life" yet not think twice when it comes
       to shooting a burglar that threatens themselves and their
       family.  It just doesn't make sense.  ;)
       
       #Post#: 11988--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is an Individual Capable of Running a State if he Doesn't
       Know the Obvious?
   DIR By: ecsmith2
       Date: February 26, 2014, 8:19 am
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       --- Quote from: wmd102 link ---
       >
       > Could it be that you worked for the UW  and some how amassed
       enough money to by Arkansas real estate?
       --- End Quote ---
       Have you complained about overpaid state workers in the past,
       and if so, how can you seriously ask this one?
       --- Quote from: wmd102 link ---
       > Does the UW hire conservatives?
       --- End Quote ---
       I don't know, you would have to follow Shelia's request and
       define things first.  I have posted in the past the only active
       party participation I have had in the past, a very distant past,
       is with the Libertarian Party.  If you label someone supporting
       Libertarian ideals, like Rand Paul, you would be incorrect
       calling them a liberal.  I have only voted for the Libertarian
       candidate for president, except in one election, and then I
       voted for the Republican.  I don't know how you label someone
       like that a liberal.
       I take it you have no rational reason for believing I am not
       partisan.
       --- Quote from: wmd102 link ---
       > Furthermore, is there any position you advocate that isn't
       liberal?
       --- End Quote ---
       Again, you would have to define what positions can only be
       considered liberal.  "Conservatives" believe in individual
       liberty and freedom.  They believe nothing should stand in the
       way of a patient and the doctor treating the patient.  There was
       mild outrage when an MSNBC host said something to the effect
       that a child belongs to the community.
  HTML http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2013/04/09/critics-slam-msnbc-hosts-claim-that-kids-belong-to-community-not-parents/
       “The notion that children belong to a state government rather
       than their own flesh and blood is the most disturbing statement
       made in recent political times. Melissa Harris-Perry is dead
       wrong. It’s unfathomable that any true American could make such
       a pretentious and naively ill statement,” media communications
       expert, and parent, Angie Olszewski told FOX411’s Pop Tarts
       column. “The government can’t properly run their own budgets
       schools and public systems. Why would anybody think they could
       rear children?”
       The Media Research Center’s Director of Media Analysis, Tim
       Graham, called the MSNBC spot "frightening.”
       Until "conservatives" want the government to decide for an
       individual about abortion.
       So what is the "liberal"/"conservative" positions I have taken a
       stand on that you are concerned about?
       The religious employer/contraception in the health insurance
       issue?  Rational gun regulation?  Could you post what you think
       my position is on something, with examples of my postings that
       support your thinking, and then I could possible confirm or
       refute your belief.
       --- Quote from: wmd102 link ---
       > I think answering those three questions would shed some light
       on the debate.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       My guess is this was not too satisfying to you.  But your
       questions need more detail.  I don't start any reasoning I do on
       things with what is the liberal/conservative position is on
       anything, because I don't know that there is any common
       agreement in society about what those two labels mean anymore.
       Mostly, to the public, they mean Democrat/Republican.  Call Sean
       Hannity a Republican and he will tell you his is a Conservative.
       But in New York, where he lives, there is an official
       Conservative Party, and he is a registered member of it.  I like
       to think about issues from the standpoint of how it affects me
       personally and the country and the world as a whole.  I don't
       know what the real agenda of either of the two major parties, so
       I don't care to support either of them.
       Labeling any policy that is the best thing for America as either
       liberal or conservative is simply a distraction.
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