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       #Post#: 20728--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Transgender or just a little perv?
       By: Jeepers Date: September 4, 2015, 2:14 am
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       I guess I don't understand this transgender stuff. I know I am
       going to get everyone in a tizzy by being politically incorrect
       here but...oh well here it goes. Back in the olden days when a
       man felt like a woman he was called a fairy and was the feminine
       half of a homosexual male relationship. A woman who felt like a
       man was called a dyke and was the masculine half of a homosexual
       female relationship. The masculine female used the woman's
       bathroom and the feminine male used the man's bathroom. There
       was no uproar about it...the media wasn't contacted....there
       were no cries of injustice or lawsuits filed. Geez...those were
       the good old days.
       #Post#: 20732--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Transgender or just a little perv?
       By: trollslayer Date: September 4, 2015, 6:45 am
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       Ah the good ole days.  When things were so simple.
       #Post#: 20735--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Transgender or just a little perv?
       By: Linda Lou Date: September 4, 2015, 6:47 am
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       There's a difference, though, Jeeps.
       Homosexuals seem "swishy" or "dykey", but they still identify
       with and live as the sex they were born with.
       Transsexuals identify as the opposite sex, and want to live as a
       member of that sex.
       Now, "in the old days", I'm sure there were a lot of gays who
       would rather been trans, but society just didn't allow it.
       And a lot of people who identified as the opposite sex just
       lived an unhappy existence.
       When I was 11, my dad started coaching women's softball. We were
       all naive, but after about a year we figured out that a number
       of the girls were gay, including one that was married to a man.
       We never had an issue with it, even though it was really not
       cool to be too open back in the late 60's. But we were all taken
       aback when about 10 years later we learned one of the girls
       transitioned to a man...complete with the surgery. This is one
       we never felt was gay....she really wasn't. She just was born
       feeling she was male. It was kinda sad when we ran into him at a
       campground...we are sure he recognized us, but this is WR, and
       apparently "Betty" moved to Australia, and "Ben" lived here now.
       #Post#: 20737--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Transgender or just a little perv?
       By: Sheila Date: September 4, 2015, 6:56 am
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       [quote author=Jeepers link=topic=1485.msg20728#msg20728
       date=1441350858]
       I guess I don't understand this transgender stuff. I know I am
       going to get everyone in a tizzy by being politically incorrect
       here but...oh well here it goes. Back in the olden days when a
       man felt like a woman he was called a fairy and was the feminine
       half of a homosexual male relationship. A woman who felt like a
       man was called a dyke and was the masculine half of a homosexual
       female relationship. The masculine female used the woman's
       bathroom and the feminine male used the man's bathroom. There
       was no uproar about it...the media wasn't contacted....there
       were no cries of injustice or lawsuits filed. Geez...those were
       the good old days.
       [/quote]
       The "good old days" did distinguish between the word meanings of
       "sex" and "gender". " Sex, specific to biology of male ore
       female. Gender in a more psycho/social form, or specifically as
       the correct usage of language, ie. "he or she".
       The "good old days" also often used the word "transsexual" when
       it came to matters of having a "personal world" view which was
       contradictory to the physical body a person was born into.
       Fast forward to today and as many things regarding language,
       there are changes...as do the ways we verbally express ideas.
       Transgender is not about sexual orientation as is the segment of
       our population that identifies as lesbian, gay or bi-sexual.
       Btw: the word "Fukk" was once a commonplace term, acceptable to
       be used by anyone at any time.
       #Post#: 20740--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Transgender or just a little perv?
       By: Linda Lou Date: September 4, 2015, 7:51 am
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       You said it much better than I did, Sheila!
       #Post#: 20741--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Transgender or just a little perv?
       By: Sheila Date: September 4, 2015, 8:10 am
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       [quote author=Linda Lou link=topic=1485.msg20740#msg20740
       date=1441371086]
       You said it much better than I did, Sheila!
       [/quote]
       Ooops! I actually didn't see your post until now. It must have
       shown up while I was writing my post. Either way, I like your
       post, too!
       #Post#: 20742--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Transgender or just a little perv?
       By: rapids_60 Date: September 4, 2015, 1:38 pm
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       [quote author=Jeepers link=topic=1485.msg20728#msg20728
       date=1441350858]
       . There was no uproar about it...the media wasn't
       contacted....there were no cries of injustice or lawsuits filed.
       Geez...those were the good old days.
       [/quote]
       I don't think it needs to be a huge media event either.   If
       someone's gay, then they are.  If they are trans, then they are.
       Big deal.
       If you have male parts, use the male restroom.  If you have
       female parts, use the other one.
       If you aren't' comfortable in either, find a unisex or gender
       neutral facility.
       #Post#: 20751--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Transgender or just a little perv?
       By: Snickers Date: September 4, 2015, 4:11 pm
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       [quote author=rapids_60 link=topic=1485.msg20742#msg20742
       date=1441391905]
       I don't think it needs to be a huge media event either.   If
       someone's gay, then they are.  If they are trans, then they are.
       Big deal.
       If you have male parts, use the male restroom.  If you have
       female parts, use the other one.
       If you aren't' comfortable in either, find a unisex or gender
       neutral facility.
       [/quote]
       I agree 100%
       #Post#: 20759--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Transgender or just a little perv?
       By: 12cows Date: September 4, 2015, 7:27 pm
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       [quote author=rapids_60 link=topic=1485.msg20742#msg20742
       date=1441391905]
       If you aren't' comfortable in either, find a unisex or gender
       neutral facility.
       [/quote]
       Or go find a bush.
       #Post#: 20762--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Transgender or just a little perv?
       By: Linda Lou Date: September 4, 2015, 8:16 pm
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       Well, if they have to use gender neutral bathrooms, the easily
       offended should probably stick with the ladies and the gents.
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