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Welcome to the new EPA
By: trollslayer Date: August 12, 2015, 7:36 pm
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I'm just kind of curious how much they're going to fine
themselves over this fine example of government incompetence.
These are the people who are going to be regulating every mud
puddle, stream, pond, river and every body of water in the
entire US. Welcome to the Obama EPAThe mustard hue of the
Animas River in Colorado -- the most visible effect of a mistake
by the Environmental Protection Agency that dumped millions of
gallons of pollutants into the water -- is striking.
Just a glance at a photo of the orange-yellowish slush is enough
to know that something seems wrong. Scientists will have to say
just how wrong, and possibly dangerous, the contamination is,
though five days after the spill answers are few.
Just how polluted is the river? Is drinking water in peril? Are
businesses dependent on the river out of luck?
One question that has been answered is the size of the spill:
more than triple than originally estimated. The U.S. Geological
Survey reported the size of the spill to be more than 3 million
gallons, compared with the initial EPA estimate of 1 million
gallons. [/quote]
HTML http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/10/us/colorado-epa-mine-river-spill/
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Re: Welcome to the new EPA
By: Mr.steve Date: August 12, 2015, 7:40 pm
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Where are the tree huggers? Figured they would be ripping at the
epa by now.
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Re: Welcome to the new EPA
By: Linda Lou Date: August 12, 2015, 8:04 pm
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That is gross. (Edited because I'd auto fill.)
But I'm curious as to how when something BAD happens, it is
always Obama's fault, but when something GOOD happens, he had
nothing to do with it..
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Re: Welcome to the new EPA
By: wmd102 Date: August 12, 2015, 9:04 pm
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[quote author=Linda Lou link=topic=1469.msg20236#msg20236
date=1439427872]
Ethics is gross.
But I'm curious as to how when something BAD happens, it is
always Obama's fault
[/quote]
How do you figure he isn't? If he isn't ultimately responsible
who is?
[quote author=Linda Lou link=topic=1469.msg20236#msg20236
date=1439427872]
Ethics is gross.
but when something GOOD happens, he had nothing to do with it..
[/quote]
When has the One Big Awful Mistake, America ever done anything
GOOD?
BTW over the past 6 years you know who has gone out of his way
to make sure everything good that happens he gets the credit
while anything bad happens he makes sure that you LET HIM BE
CLEAR that he was is no way shape or for is to blame for
anything. In recent months he has started trying to pass off bad
things as good to take credit for them. ;)
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Re: Welcome to the new EPA
By: trollslayer Date: August 12, 2015, 9:52 pm
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[quote author=Linda Lou link=topic=1469.msg20236#msg20236
date=1439427872]
That is gross. (Edited because I'd auto fill.)
But I'm curious as to how when something BAD happens, it is
always Obama's fault, but when something GOOD happens, he had
nothing to do with it..
[/quote]
If a company fails, who gets the blame? The CEO. If a team
does bad, who gets the blame? The coach. Isn't the EPA part of
the Federal Government? Is not Obama the head of the federal
government? Like WMD said. Even when something bad happens,
(Iran deal) they try to pass it off as something good. Remember
when gas hit $4 a gallon and people were screaming for Bush's
head on a platter? How quickly they forget.
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Re: Welcome to the new EPA
By: rapids_60 Date: August 12, 2015, 11:53 pm
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[quote]Is not Obama the head of the federal government?[/quote]
So we can thank Obama for getting rid of Bin Laden, the soaring
stock market, the downward unemployment trend and the lowest oil
and natural gas prices in a decade or more?
Good. Glad that's finally cleared up.
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These chemicals have been sitting in that mine for roughly 95
years. (the mine closed in 1923). Colorado has been left to deal
with hundreds of contaminated sites like this one and this is
far from the first leak of it's type. In fact these mines have
been leaking (on a smaller scale) into the groundwater for
decades.
Funny thing is the CO residents fought cleanup attempts for
years because they thought a "superfund" designation would kill
their tourism industry. It isn't very John Denver-ish I suppose.
The EPA acquiesced to their demands and decided to operate on a
much smaller scale, instead of a massive clean up, they would
plug only a few mines at a time and pump them out.
In the process of plugging one mine, another backed up, blew
it's plugs and here we are.
The irony is that the same EPA who says industrial waste from
mining poisons the environment for decades (while levying fines)
has now announced, one week later, that the river is back to
it's pre-spill quality and is just fine to swim or fish in with
no long-term damage. To quote Mel Brooks: It's good to be the
king.
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Re: Welcome to the new EPA
By: trollslayer Date: August 13, 2015, 7:06 am
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This gross mistake was done by one of his government agencies.
Remember when Bush was in office. Remember when gas hit $4 a
gallon. That was his fault. How quickly they forget.
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Re: Welcome to the new EPA
By: rapids_60 Date: August 13, 2015, 2:56 pm
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[quote author=trollslayer link=topic=1469.msg20247#msg20247
date=1439467581]
This gross mistake was done by one of his government agencies.
Remember when Bush was in office. Remember when gas hit $4 a
gallon. That was his fault. How quickly they forget.
[/quote]
Lol. It wasn't 24 hours after Bin Laden's killing that the
Republicans were trying to credit BUSH for his death. "Obama
just happened to be president". I believe some on this forum
were making that exact argument.
Yet Bush was NOT responsible for the 9/11 attacks, even though
HE was the country's CEO at the time.
Gotta make up your minds. Either the POTUS is responsible for
everything that happens on their watch, good or bad, or they are
not. Can't pick and choose.
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Re: Welcome to the new EPA
By: Linda Lou Date: August 13, 2015, 5:20 pm
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...what Rapids said....
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Re: Welcome to the new EPA
By: p2_d Date: August 13, 2015, 8:15 pm
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So we can thank Obama for getting rid of Bin Laden, the soaring
stock market,
Not sure what your knowledge of the stock market is, but while
the dow jones numbers are high it "The Dow is flawed, It is
biased towards the very large companies and only measures only
about 20 percent of the market. It also fails to appropriately
weight stocks in the index. So it is hardly an accurate
indicator of the overall health of the market
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