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       #Post#: 20146--------------------------------------------------
       Plans to fix the worst intersection in the area
       By: 12cows Date: August 6, 2015, 10:11 pm
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       DOT plans for J-turn intersection at highways 54 and U
       Karen Madden, Daily Tribune Media 9:15 p.m. CDT August 6, 2015
       BIRON – State Department of Transportation officials have
       decided on a solution they hope will improve safety at Highways
       54-Highway U intersection.
       The DOT is planning on installing a J-turn intersection at the
       corner, said Tim Hanley, DOT project manager. Traffic traveling
       east or west on Highway 54 will still move through the
       intersection the way it does now. Traffic crossing Highway 54 or
       making a left-hand turn from Highway U will have to instead make
       a right turn, cross the two lanes of traffic to enter a turn
       lane, then travel about 1,400 feet down the highway to an
       opening in the median designed to allow drivers to make a U-turn
       to go the other direction. Drivers wanting to continue on
       Highway U then will get into a right-turn lane.
       The design is safer than going directly across the divided
       highway because drivers are only looking at crossing two lanes
       of traffic at a time, Hanley said.
       The project will cost about $1.2 million and is scheduled for
       construction in 2016, Hanley said. However, the decision of the
       intersection, which will be the first J-turn intersection in the
       region, met with a less than enthusiastic reaction from
       residents and local officials during a hearing Thursday night.
       Officials from Wood and Portage counties, Grand Rapids, Biron,
       Plover and Grant all recommended an option for the intersection
       that involved the creation of a large center island big enough
       to allow vehicles, including semis, to wait between the
       eastbound and westbound lanes for traffic to clear, said Arne
       Nystrom, Grand Rapids chairman.
       DOT staff studied all the options for the intersection and
       determined the J-turn intersection best suited the needs to
       improve safety while not taking any property from residents near
       the intersection, Hanley said.
       Residents who attended Thursday’s hearing wanted any plan to
       include reducing the speed limit going through the intersection
       from the current 65 mph to 50 mph.
       #Post#: 20151--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Plans to fix the worst intersection in the area
       By: rapids_60 Date: August 7, 2015, 12:49 am
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       About time.
       #Post#: 20156--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Plans to fix the worst intersection in the area
       By: trollslayer Date: August 7, 2015, 1:43 pm
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       Personally, I think anywhere they put a roundabout in place of
       an intersection makes the worst intersection worse.  I hate
       those dam things.  Some cities it seems you can run into one of
       these every half mile or so.
       #Post#: 20163--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Plans to fix the worst intersection in the area
       By: 2fat Date: August 7, 2015, 7:46 pm
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       [quote author=trollslayer link=topic=1466.msg20156#msg20156
       date=1438973030]
       Personally, I think anywhere they put a roundabout in place of
       an intersection makes the worst intersection worse.  I hate
       those dam things.  Some cities it seems you can run into one of
       these every half mile or so.
       [/quote]
       While I usually like roundabouts some places sure seem to
       overuse them,  Mt Horeb for one!!   And on hiway 10 between east
       side of appleton and I-43 for another one every five miles or
       so--and then in the middle of Brillion where there should be a
       roundabout there is none!!
       #Post#: 20169--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Plans to fix the worst intersection in the area
       By: rapids_60 Date: August 8, 2015, 12:12 am
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       No roundabout being built here, just adding a 90 degree bend
       (so you can' t blow the stopsign on U) and some changes to the
       meridian/turn lanes.
       Agreed on the overuse of the roundabouts.  We needed one by the
       Rapids courthouse on Baker exactly why?  There's barely been any
       traffic on Baker since the expressway was built.
       #Post#: 20170--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Plans to fix the worst intersection in the area
       By: 2fat Date: August 8, 2015, 8:03 am
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       [quote author=rapids_60 link=topic=1466.msg20169#msg20169
       date=1439010755]
       No roundabout being built here, just adding a 90 degree bend
       (so you can' t blow the stopsign on U) and some changes to the
       meridian/turn lanes.
       Agreed on the overuse of the roundabouts.  We needed one by the
       Rapids courthouse on Baker exactly why?  There's barely been any
       traffic on Baker since the expressway was built.
       [/quote]
       safer and cheaper is the mantra---and makes sense too
       #Post#: 20171--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Plans to fix the worst intersection in the area
       By: wmd102 Date: August 8, 2015, 8:08 am
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       I am not sure if if this was an option but why not just make 54
       wider at the "U" intersection like the new US 10 intersections.
       Those are wide enough that cars stop midway instead of waiting
       for traffic on both sides to be clear before crossing or making
       a left turn.
       #Post#: 20174--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Plans to fix the worst intersection in the area
       By: Linda Lou Date: August 8, 2015, 10:33 am
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       I'm assuming the speed limit will be reduced near these J-turns?
       I can't figure out how you'd put that in an area with a 65 MPH
       speed limit...
       #Post#: 20176--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Plans to fix the worst intersection in the area
       By: Snickers Date: August 8, 2015, 11:35 am
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       [quote author=trollslayer link=topic=1466.msg20156#msg20156
       date=1438973030]
       Personally, I think anywhere they put a roundabout in place of
       an intersection makes the worst intersection worse.  I hate
       those dam things.  Some cities it seems you can run into one of
       these every half mile or so.
       [/quote]
       I like round abouts.  They are safer. If there are any
       collisions they are glancing strikes not a t- bone hit.
       That area that 2fat mentioned I also thought was a bit much when
       I traveled it this spring. There are I believe 3 of them in a
       coup[le mile stretch  of the road. But then again I don't know
       what the traffic pattern was like before they were installed.
       #Post#: 20177--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Plans to fix the worst intersection in the area
       By: Snickers Date: August 8, 2015, 11:38 am
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       [quote author=Linda Lou link=topic=1466.msg20174#msg20174
       date=1439048037]
       I'm assuming the speed limit will be reduced near these J-turns?
       I can't figure out how you'd put that in an area with a 65 MPH
       speed limit...
       [/quote]
       People are asking for that. But the DOT doesn't want to reduce
       it there. I think they should just continue the posted speed
       limit from Rapids out past that intersection.
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