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       Re: is it art, or profiting off of racism?
       By: Snickers Date: July 27, 2015, 6:02 pm
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       [quote author=p2_d link=topic=1455.msg20046#msg20046
       date=1438027368]
       Linda
       It is my understanding that Michael Browns mother gave her
       permission to use his likeness. She also was the first to view
       the exhibit
       Rapids
       I remember back in the 80s a student painted a picture of then
       Mayor Washington in women's undies, several alderman went to the
       student gallery and had the police remove the painting.
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirth_%26_Girth
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       They must have offered her some money.
       She was selling those t shirts for her own financial  gain and
       even had brown's Grandmother put in the hospital over money
       being made off those shirts.
       Low life p. o. s.
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       Re: is it art, or profiting off of racism?
       By: rapids_60 Date: July 28, 2015, 1:06 am
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       [quote author=p2_d link=topic=1455.msg20046#msg20046
       date=1438027368]
       I remember back in the 80s a student painted a picture of then
       Mayor Washington in women's undies, several alderman went to the
       student gallery and had the police remove the painting.
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirth_%26_Girth
       [/quote]
       Yikes! I had forgotten about that, lol.  These days you'd be in
       hot water  for suggesting a man in women's underwear was an
       insult, lol.
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       Re: is it art, or profiting off of racism?
       By: p2_d Date: July 28, 2015, 8:16 am
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       Linda
       Sometimes art is decorative and sometimes art needs to shock.
       Why do churches have Christ hanging on a cross? Picasso's
       Guernica was used to shock people and in a positive way, of the
       horrors of war.
       Rapids.
       Regarding Serrano. I have no problem with the NEA funding and
       would be more upset if art work had to pass a morals test to get
       funding. I have read quite a bit about this work and being a
       very devout Catholic think its message might have been
       misunderstood. from the artist, ""The thing about the crucifix
       itself is that we treat it almost like a fashion accessory. When
       you see it, you're not horrified by it at all, but what it
       represents is the crucifixion of a man," Serrano told the
       Guardian. "And for Christ to have been crucified and laid on the
       cross for three days where he not only bled to death, he shat
       himself and he peed himself to death."So if Piss Christ upsets
       you, maybe it's a good thing to think about what happened on the
       cross."
       From a Catholic nun and art critic Sister Wendy Beckett, "as not
       blasphemous but a statement on "what we have done to Christ":
       that is, the way contemporary society has come to regard Christ
       and the values he represents."
       Perhaps a new and interesting way to view that work?
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       Re: is it art, or profiting off of racism?
       By: rapids_60 Date: July 28, 2015, 2:09 pm
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       [quote author=p2_d link=topic=1455.msg20050#msg20050
       date=1438089417]
       Rapids.
       Regarding Serrano. I have no problem with the NEA funding and
       would be more upset if art work had to pass a morals test to get
       funding.
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       I don't agree with a "morals test".  But I'm not in favor of the
       government funding artists regardless, so there wouldn't be one.
       Why not just fund everybody's job?
       I AM in favor of government subsidizing admission to concerts,
       exhibits, etc.  for those who cannot afford it.
       [quote]
       I have read quite a bit about this work and being a very devout
       Catholic think its message might have been misunderstood.
       [/quote]
       Thanks for posting that, I feel like I learned something and
       never looked at it in that way before.  I agree that the true
       extent of Christ's suffering has been sanitized for public
       consumption.  I wish that explanation had accompanied the
       exhibit (assuming it did not- I don't recall hearing it at the
       time)
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