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Re: The New Democratic Party, All lives don't matter
By: rapids_60 Date: July 22, 2015, 4:05 pm
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[quote author=trollslayer link=topic=1447.msg19953#msg19953
date=1437598744]
I take it you've never heard of the statement "ignorance of the
law is no excuse.
[/quote]
Yes I'm aware of that. I've also heard "innocent until proven
guilty" and neither of us have all the facts.
Remember the left all screaming about Eric Garner (including
the video) and Micheal Brown without knowing the entire story?
Yeah, well now the righties are doing it.
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Re: The New Democratic Party, All lives don't matter
By: trollslayer Date: July 22, 2015, 4:35 pm
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[quote author=rapids_60 link=topic=1447.msg19955#msg19955
date=1437599148]
Yes I'm aware of that. I've also heard "innocent until proven
guilty" and neither of us have all the facts.
Remember the left all screaming about Eric Garner (including
the video) and Micheal Brown without knowing the entire story?
Yeah, well now the righties are doing it. I'm not even sure how
you can draw a comparison between the two. The video is so
obvious that you can't miss it. Michael Brown there was no
video. But keep up the spin.
[/quote] Do you mean we don't have the entire negotiation? It's
quite obvious she was negotiating a price for a fetus. There is
no question about it! Just like we knew Michael Brown was dead.
Browns Death wasn't caught on video. This negotiation was!
Trying to say you can't see the difference is clearly showing
your political bias.
Remember the video where the cop was shown shooting a guy in the
back as he ran away? We didn't know the whole story there
either but the evidence on the video was clear, as it is here.
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Re: The New Democratic Party, All lives don't matter
By: Linda Lou Date: July 22, 2015, 5:00 pm
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I watched this video the other night...there's a lot of the
conversation that doesn't show who is talking. It's very easy to
dub audio onto one of these.
Also, it's pretty good video. full face shots. Curious as to how
someone could get that video without the other people knowing.
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Re: The New Democratic Party, All lives don't matter
By: trollslayer Date: July 22, 2015, 6:25 pm
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[quote author=Linda Lou link=topic=1447.msg19957#msg19957
date=1437602445]
I watched this video the other night...there's a lot of the
conversation that doesn't show who is talking. It's very easy to
dub audio onto one of these.
Also, it's pretty good video. full face shots. Curious as to how
someone could get that video without the other people knowing.
[/quote] it should be noted Linda that Planned Parenthood is not
disputing the context of the video, they were just complaining
that it was edited. If you watched the video on YouTube you will
see it is not edited. The negotiation for price is quite
obvious.
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Re: The New Democratic Party, All lives don't matter
By: Mr.steve Date: July 22, 2015, 8:58 pm
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Thousands of years ago in ancient Middle East, children were
sacrificed to "the gods". We have come a long way since then and
have become much more sophisticated in our sacrifices and gods.
Today I see the secular worlds gods as economics, career,
selfishness and community standing. Today women can choose to
"Nip it in the bud" so to speak, to avoid what would surely be
public ridicule by killing the child before anyone can see it.
The gods are appeased and society is in acceptance.
We have come a long way, haven't we?
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Re: The New Democratic Party, All lives don't matter
By: rapids_60 Date: July 22, 2015, 11:12 pm
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[quote author=trollslayer link=topic=1447.msg19956#msg19956
date=1437600958]
Do you mean we don't have the entire negotiation? It's quite
obvious
[/quote]
Quite obvious to me that a large black man named Garner who was
not resisting arrest was killed by a policemen using an illegal
chokehold. Saw it with my own eyes. But guess what? That
isn't what the grand jury saw.
[quote]The negotiation for price is quite obvious.[/quote]
Your question above- "Do you mean we don't have the entire
negotiation" is irrelevant for the same reason this statement
is: There is nothing illegal about negotiating over price.
You'll have to prove that price included profit over and above
expenses for there to be a problem. I don't think you or any of
the other folks screaming "scandal" can do that.
You are engaging in the same behavior you slam liberals for-
jumping to guilty without having all the facts.
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Re: The New Democratic Party, All lives don't matter
By: rapids_60 Date: July 22, 2015, 11:28 pm
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[quote author=Mr.steve link=topic=1447.msg19971#msg19971
date=1437616699]
Today I see the secular worlds gods as economics, career,
selfishness and community standing.
[/quote]
The number of abortions performed has dropped every year since
1990, largely because of more effective education and easier
access to birth control.
It baffles my sense of logic that the Religious Right fights
against both things.
It is no coincidence that states that mandate abstinence-only
education have the highest rates of teen pregnancy and repeat
teen pregnancy.
HTML http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3194801/
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Re: The New Democratic Party, All lives don't matter
By: p2_d Date: July 23, 2015, 7:34 am
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Not sure what video you saw Rapids, perhaps it was edited but
Mr. Garner was clearly resisting arrest. The chokehold that you
say the officer used also is not illegal.
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Re: The New Democratic Party, All lives don't matter
By: Snickers Date: July 23, 2015, 10:18 am
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[quote author=p2_d link=topic=1447.msg19981#msg19981
date=1437654859]
Not sure what video you saw Rapids, perhaps it was edited but
Mr. Garner was clearly resisting arrest. The chokehold that you
say the officer used also is not illegal.
[/quote]
Same thing I saw. He was resisting.
And the fact to the matter is...that was not an illegal an
illegal hold.
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Re: The New Democratic Party, All lives don't matter
By: trollslayer Date: July 23, 2015, 11:50 am
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[quote author=rapids_60 link=topic=1447.msg19976#msg19976
date=1437624746]
Quite obvious to me that a large black man named Garner who was
not resisting arrest was killed by a policemen using an illegal
chokehold. Saw it with my own eyes. But guess what? That
isn't what the grand jury saw.
Your question above- "Do you mean we don't have the entire
negotiation" is irrelevant for the same reason this statement
is: There is nothing illegal about negotiating over price.
You'll have to prove that price included profit over and above
expenses for there to be a problem. I don't think you or any of
the other folks screaming "scandal" can do that.
You are engaging in the same behavior you slam liberals for-
jumping to guilty without having all the facts.
[/quote]
One word Rapids. Intent. Nobody said negotiating aborted fetuses
was illegal, but the intent to follow though was there. As I
said in an earlier post, this has been enough for the FBI to
arrest potential terrorists. One doesn't need to break the law
for it to be a scandal. Sometimes, reprehensible behavior alone
can make a scandal. Remember a certain Republican lawmaker
playing footie in a airport bathroom? No law broken but
certainly a scandal. Remember another Republican lawmakers
comments on rape? Again, no laws broken but certainly a
scandal.
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