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#Post#: 19357--------------------------------------------------
Whoda thunk it.
By: trollslayer Date: March 4, 2015, 8:41 am
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Democrats hating Israel as much as they do, fleeing the Capitol
much like the fled the state a few years back. Then the cowards
holding a press conference excoriating Netenayhu. I'm starting
to see a pattern here. Obama says Netenyahu doesn't have a
plan. He must not have heard the same speech I did. There was
a plan. No deal.
It's too bad that Obama doesn't want to deal with Republicans as
much as he does with Iran. There might be something
accomplished.
#Post#: 19359--------------------------------------------------
Re: Whoda thunk it.
By: rapids_60 Date: March 4, 2015, 9:05 pm
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A foreign leader coming here and basically telling us our
intelligence agencies are wrong and our plans are stupid. And
the republicans cheer it on!
If this weren't Obama and y'all didn't rejoice at any
opportunity to demean him, Netanyahu would be given a one-way
ticket back home. Coach.
Here's an idea....If he's that worried about Iran, let him bomb
them. Israel certainly has the military might. I didn't
realize the USA was Israel's lap dog.
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Re: Whoda thunk it.
By: Snickers Date: March 4, 2015, 9:50 pm
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[quote author=rapids_60 link=topic=1409.msg19359#msg19359
date=1425524751]
A foreign leader coming here and basically telling us our
intelligence agencies are wrong and our plans are stupid. And
the republicans cheer it on!
If this weren't Obama and y'all didn't rejoice at any
opportunity to demean him, Netanyahu would be given a one-way
ticket back home. Coach.
Here's an idea....If he's that worried about Iran, let him bomb
them. Israel certainly has the military might. I didn't
realize the USA was Israel's lap dog.
[/quote]
Bottom line ....Netanyahu is correct. Obama and his hand picked
flunkys are wrong.
Sorry but Obama is walking, breathing cluster F**k.
He is an incompetent failure.
Everyone he has appointed to leadership positions in the
various departments and agencies also fall into that category.
Our people working in these departments and agencies are totally
frusterated with the way they are being run.
A couple years ago Obama threatened to shot down any Israeli
planes that flew into Irag's airspace on their way to attack
Iran.
#Post#: 19361--------------------------------------------------
Re: Whoda thunk it.
By: rapids_60 Date: March 5, 2015, 12:33 am
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[quote author=Snickers link=topic=1409.msg19360#msg19360
date=1425527410]
Bottom line ....Netanyahu is correct.
[/quote]
Just like he was correct about Iraq and Saddam? How'd that work
out?
Truth is Bibi is trying to retain power at home and to do so he
needs an immediate and credible threat. Hence the blustery
speech in front of Congress.
His own security and intelligence agencies agree with Obama's
vision of Iran, not Netanyahu's, and lest anyone forget:
Iran is on our side against ISIS at present, one of the more
effective Middle eastern countries in the fight. Bibi needen't
screw that up for us.
As President Reagan said when Menachem Begin tried an end-run
around him to Congress over AWACS planes, ""it is not the
business of other nations to make American foreign policy".
It still isn't.
HTML http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/a-bombshell-for-bibi--if-israels-prime-minister-could-feel-any-shame-10067964.html
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Re: Whoda thunk it.
By: trollslayer Date: March 5, 2015, 7:03 am
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[quote]Iran is on our side against ISIS at present, one of the
more effective Middle eastern countries in the fight. Bibi
needen't screw that up for us. [/quote]
Iran fighting against ISIS is like saying Al Qaeda is fighting
ISIS. It's just one terrorist group fighting another so they
can be the lead terrorist group. Iran is never "on our side".
Remember the mock American ship they blew up in their war games
last week? Just a couple things you need to remember.
Iran's number one export is terrorism.
Iran has vowed to see the full scale destruction of Israel.
Iran is the number one exporter of the bombs that fall on Israel
and weapons to Hezbollah.
There are a dozen other countries that have nuclear power that
do not enrich uranium.
The IAEA has been reporting that Iran has been blocking
inspections and can not verify.
There is only one reason to insist on a sunset clause. To build
a bomb.
If Israel wouldn't have bombed their facilities years ago
experts state they would have had the bomb by now.
Yet knowing all that you don't consider Iran an "immediate and
credible threat"?
#Post#: 19363--------------------------------------------------
Re: Whoda thunk it.
By: trollslayer Date: March 5, 2015, 7:47 am
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[quote]As President Reagan said when Menachem Begin tried an
end-run around him to Congress over AWACS planes, ""it is not
the business of other nations to make American foreign policy".
It still isn't.
[/quote]
There isn't a country in the middle east that thinks our policy
is a wise policy. Yet Obama plows on because he knows more than
everybody else. Maybe it would be a little wiser to listen to
our allies in the region instead of isolating us in the region.
#Post#: 19364--------------------------------------------------
Re: Whoda thunk it.
By: wmd102 Date: March 5, 2015, 8:22 am
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[quote author=rapids_60 link=topic=1409.msg19359#msg19359
date=1425524751]
A foreign leader coming here and basically telling us our
intelligence agencies are wrong and our plans are stupid.
[/quote]
Why not? Everyone says they the same thing. With regards to the
Intelligence Gathering Agency community the CIA has always found
itself at the low end of scale. Remember that Tom Clancy Movie
quote? Cenrtal Intelligence Agency...contradiction in terms! ;)
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Re: Whoda thunk it.
By: Snickers Date: March 5, 2015, 12:01 pm
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[quote author=rapids_60 link=topic=1409.msg19361#msg19361
date=1425537180]
Just like he was correct about Iraq and Saddam? How'd that work
out?
Truth is Bibi is trying to retain power at home and to do so he
needs an immediate and credible threat. Hence the blustery
speech in front of Congress.
His own security and intelligence agencies agree with Obama's
vision of Iran, not Netanyahu's, and lest anyone forget:
Iran is on our side against ISIS at present, one of the more
effective Middle eastern countries in the fight. Bibi needen't
screw that up for us.
As President Reagan said when Menachem Begin tried an end-run
around him to Congress over AWACS planes, ""it is not the
business of other nations to make American foreign policy".
It still isn't.
HTML http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/a-bombshell-for-bibi--if-israels-prime-minister-could-feel-any-shame-10067964.html
[/quote]
Iran is not on our side.
They are in a power struggle with ISISD. Both want to be the
lone standing Islamic ruler of first the middle east. Then the
world.
Once ISIS is beaten Iran will once again turn it's undivided
attention Israel and us.
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Re: Whoda thunk it.
By: rapids_60 Date: March 5, 2015, 4:24 pm
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[quote author=trollslayer link=topic=1409.msg19362#msg19362
date=1425560605]
If Israel wouldn't have bombed their facilities years ago
experts state they would have had the bomb by now.
[/quote]
Exactly when was that? Israel bombed IRAQ's faciliites in the
early 80's but they have never bombed Iran, thus the statement
above could never have been made.
Are you making up "facts" as you go along?
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Re: Whoda thunk it.
By: rapids_60 Date: March 5, 2015, 4:26 pm
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[quote author=Snickers link=topic=1409.msg19365#msg19365
date=1425578495]
Once ISIS is beaten Iran will once again turn it's undivided
attention Israel and us.
[/quote]
Perfect. Let them clear out ISIS, thinking we're on their side.
When they are done Obama's replacement can squash them.
What's not to like about that plan?
Bibi's been saying Iran is "moments away from the bomb" for 19
years now. He is after all first and foremost a politician.
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