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       #Post#: 19431--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The impoverished Clintons are at it again
       By: Linda Lou Date: March 10, 2015, 4:11 pm
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       This was not a bright move on her part. Will it bring her down?
       Time will tell. But I don't this is her "Watergate" moment.
       #Post#: 19433--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The impoverished Clintons are at it again
       By: Snickers Date: March 10, 2015, 4:12 pm
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       [quote author=Linda Lou link=topic=1399.msg19431#msg19431
       date=1426021860]
       This was not a bright move on her part. Will it bring her down?
       Time will tell. But I don't this is her "Watergate" moment.
       [/quote]
       This may very well be criminal. That could be her undoing.
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       Re: The impoverished Clintons are at it again
       By: trollslayer Date: March 10, 2015, 5:03 pm
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       [quote author=Snickers link=topic=1399.msg19433#msg19433
       date=1426021935]
       This may very well be criminal. That could be her undoing.
       [/quote]
       You could have poked her with a fork a long time ago.  One
       listen to her excuses today shows shes overdone.  Cmon, does she
       look like someone who does yoga?  Do you believe she sent over
       60,000 emails and not one of them had classified secrets?
       Nobody is buying it.
       #Post#: 19438--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The impoverished Clintons are at it again
       By: 12cows Date: March 10, 2015, 5:54 pm
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       [quote author=trollslayer link=topic=1399.msg19436#msg19436
       date=1426024998]
       You could have poked her with a fork a long time ago.
       [/quote]
       What?
       #Post#: 19441--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The impoverished Clintons are at it again
       By: trollslayer Date: March 10, 2015, 7:21 pm
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       A few interesting comments on the Clinton presser from today.
       Hillary's main line was "trust me".  I'm sorry.  Fool me
       once.....
       Of that 60,0000 or so emails she states some were to her
       husband.  Billary's spokesperson says Billary has written two
       emails in his entire life and prefers to use Twitter, the best
       way to communicate for those unable to put together more than
       140 characters.
       The Obama administration says they've turned over all documents
       regarding Benghazi yet the private Clinton emails weren't part
       of that package and in fact the emails from the date of the 911
       attack are missing.
       Hillary states she has deleted emails she deems "personal".  Why
       is it the blank time on the Richard Nixon tapes come to mind?
       #Post#: 19444--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The impoverished Clintons are at it again
       By: Linda Lou Date: March 10, 2015, 7:29 pm
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       Seriously? You supported George W Bush and Scott Walker, and you
       are insulting Bill Clinton's intelligence?
       #Post#: 19445--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The impoverished Clintons are at it again
       By: trollslayer Date: March 10, 2015, 7:47 pm
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       [quote author=Linda Lou link=topic=1399.msg19444#msg19444
       date=1426033778]
       Seriously? You supported George W Bush and Scott Walker, and you
       are insulting Bill Clinton's intelligence?
       [/quote]
       You disagree with Walker and Bush.  That makes them dumb?  I
       think Twitter is dumb.
       #Post#: 19452--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The impoverished Clintons are at it again
       By: trollslayer Date: March 11, 2015, 7:37 am
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       It appears the fact checkers at the AP are having a hard time
       with Hillary's explanation
       [quote]
       WASHINGTON (AP) - How Hillary Rodham Clinton's statements about
       her exclusive use of private email instead of a government
       account as secretary of state compare with the known facts:
       CLINTON: "Others had done it."
       THE FACTS: Although email practices varied among her
       predecessors, Clinton is the only secretary of state known to
       have conducted all official unclassified government business on
       a private email address. Years earlier, when emailing was not
       the ubiquitous practice it is now among high officials, Colin
       Powell used both a government and a private account. It's a
       striking departure from the norm for top officials to rely
       exclusively on private email for official business.
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       CLINTON: "I fully complied with every rule I was governed by."
       THE FACTS: At the very least, Clinton appears to have violated
       what the White House has called "very specific guidance" that
       officials should use government email to conduct business.
       Clinton provided no details about whether she had initially
       consulted with the department or other government officials
       before using the private email system. She did not answer
       several questions about whether she sought any clearances before
       she began relying exclusively on private emails for government
       business.
       Federal officials are allowed to communicate on private email
       and are generally allowed to conduct government business in
       those exchanges, but that ability is constrained, both by
       federal regulations and by their supervisors.
       Federal law during Clinton's tenure called for the archiving of
       such private email records when used for government work, but
       did not set out clear rules or punishments for violations until
       rules were tightened in November. In 2011, when Clinton was
       secretary, a cable from her office sent to all employees advised
       them to avoid conducting any official business on their private
       email accounts because of targeting by unspecified "online
       adversaries."
       ___
       CLINTON: "I did not email any classified material to anyone on
       my email. There is no classified material."
       THE FACTS: The assertion fits with the facts as known but skirts
       the issue of exchanging information in a private account that,
       while falling below the level of classified, is still sensitive.
       The State Department and other national security agencies have
       specified rules for the handling of such sensitive material,
       which could affect national security, diplomatic and privacy
       concerns, and may include material such as personnel, medical
       and law enforcement data. In reviewing the 30,000 emails she
       turned over to the State Department, officials are looking for
       any security lapses concerning sensitive but unclassified
       material that may have been disclosed.
       ___
       CLINTON: "It had numerous safeguards. It was on property guarded
       by the Secret Service. And there were no security breaches."
       THE FACTS: While Clinton's server was physically guarded by the
       Secret Service, she provided no evidence it hadn't been
       compromised by hackers or foreign adversaries. She also didn't
       detail who administered the email system, if it received
       appropriate software security updates, or if it was monitored
       routinely for unauthorized access.
       Clinton also didn't answer whether the homebrew computer system
       on her property had the same level of safeguards provided at
       professional data facilities, such as regulated temperatures,
       offsite backups, generators in case of power outages and
       fire-suppression systems. It was unclear what, if any,
       encryption software Clinton's server may have used to
       communicate with U.S. government email accounts.
       Recent high-profile breaches, including at Sony Pictures
       Entertainment, have raised scrutiny on how well corporations and
       private individuals protect their computer networks from attack.
       ___
       CLINTON: "When I got to work as secretary of state, I opted for
       convenience to use my personal email account, which was allowed
       by the State Department, because I thought it would be easier to
       carry just one device for my work and for my personal emails
       instead of two. Looking back, it would've been better if I'd
       simply used a second email account and carried a second phone,
       but at the time, this didn't seem like an issue."
       THE FACTS: If multiple devices were an inconvenience in the
       past, they may be something of an obsession now. Clinton told an
       event in California's Silicon Valley last month that she has an
       iPad, a mini-iPad, an iPhone and a BlackBerry. "I'm like two
       steps short of a hoarder," she said. She suggested she started
       out in Washington with a BlackBerry but her devices grew in
       number.
       Smartphones were capable of multiple emails when she became
       secretary; it's not clear whether the particular phone she used
       then was permitted to do so under State Department rules.
       ___
       Associated Press writer Calvin Woodward contributed to this
       report.
       [/quote]
       #Post#: 19454--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The impoverished Clintons are at it again
       By: Linda Lou Date: March 11, 2015, 8:22 am
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       This was a stupid move on her part. In this day and age she
       should have known better...this could have lead to a serious
       security breach.
       But, as of yet, there's no proof that anything nefarious was
       going on....no secret dealings, et. al.
       #Post#: 19455--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The impoverished Clintons are at it again
       By: Notso Date: March 11, 2015, 9:03 am
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       [quote author=Linda Lou link=topic=1399.msg19454#msg19454
       date=1426080151]
       This was a stupid move on her part. In this day and age she
       should have known better...this could have lead to a serious
       security breach.
       But, as of yet, there's no proof that anything nefarious was
       going on....no secret dealings, et. al.
       [/quote]
       I'm actually surprised in this day and age that it was
       convenient.  I have no experience with .gov but I still have a
       .mil (military) address.  Every time I get an email from
       anything other than .gov or .mil, I have to click through 3
       different warnings before it will even download.
       Course this would not affect her receiving mail but I would
       assume the folks she was sending stuff to would be going through
       something similar.  Then again, sometimes you just put up with
       hassles when dealing with the big boss.
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