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Howard "arrrrgh" Dean says
By: trollslayer Date: February 14, 2015, 4:57 pm
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Walker shouldn't be president because he he didn't finish
college. I can think of more reasons Walker shouldn't be
president but not having a diploma isn't one of them. I mean,
after all the current resident has a law degree and look at the
mess we're in.
Trying to make a big deal out of this is like trying to make a
big deal out of a birth certificate. Does this now make Dean
and those like him "diplermers"? Does he seriously think that
going to college for one more semester is going to make him
"knowledgeable"?
[quote]On Thursday's edition of MSNBC's Morning Joe, fmr. Gov.
Howard Dean questioned how "well educated" Scott Walker is and
called it a "problem" for the Governor of Wisconsin. Dean said
this makes Walker "unknowledgeable."
"Are you serious? You're saying he might not be qualified
because he didn't finish college?" an incredulous Joe
Scarborough asked.
"I think there are going to be a lot of people who worry about
that," Dean said.
"Do you worry about people that don't finish college?"
Scarborough shot back.
"I worry about people being President of the United States not
knowing much about the world and not knowing much about
science," Dean said. "I worry about that."
Dean later elaborated that Walker's answer on evolution gave him
concern about his lack of a college degree.
"How do you know his unknowledgeable? He's knowledgeable about
what's going on in his state?" co-host Willie Geist asked.
"And what in the hell does that have to do with him answering
the question the way he did? That was a cheap shot," Scarborough
added.
"Because," Dean said, "evolution is a widely accepted scientific
construct and people who don't believe in evolution either do it
for hard-right religious reasons or because they don't know
anything."
"I got to say, and I'm looking through the hall of fame of
people that didn't graduate from college," Scarborough said.
"It's pretty remarkable. I think Scott Walker got through 3 and
1/2 years of college. You can say that out of all of the things
that I have that impact me in my daily life, a college degree is
like near the bottom of them. I mean, I got a great education. I
got a great college degree. But I know a lot of people, you look
at Peter Jennings, Peter Jennings didn't graduate from high
school. One of the best, most well read guys in news from
anybody that knows him. They're all around us. I'm just saying
trying to attach him not going to college to not answering the
question on evolution, I think is -- how would you say, a
Deanian stretch."
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Re: Howard "arrrrgh" Dean says
By: Snickers Date: February 14, 2015, 6:36 pm
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Two of America's most educated Presidents
Obama and Carter.
Need more be said?
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Re: Howard "arrrrgh" Dean says
By: trollslayer Date: February 15, 2015, 7:03 am
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[quote author=Snickers link=topic=1389.msg19064#msg19064
date=1423960590]
Two of America's most educated Presidents
Obama and Carter.
Need more be said?
[/quote]
Right?????? :D
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Re: Howard "arrrrgh" Dean says
By: Linda Lou Date: February 15, 2015, 10:42 am
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Not even close, Snickers.
HTML http://degreed.com/blog/top-10-educated-u-s-presidents/
TOP 10 MOST EDUCATED U.S. PRESIDENTS
The President of the United States has a longer job description
than most average citizens. Presidents have a long list of
duties including serving as the Commander in Chief of the
military, being the Chief Executive of the federal government,
and overseeing the executive branch of the government. With all
of that responsibility to juggle, it’s pretty obvious that a
solid educational background is one of the prerequisites for the
job. We’ve had a number of highly intelligent people serve as
president over the years, but would you believe that only one
has obtained a Ph.D.? Keep reading to find out who were the most
educated U.S. presidents and what credentials they earned.
1. Franklin Pierce
Franklin Pierce studied law at Northampton Law School in
Massachusetts before becoming the 14th President of the United
States, and he practiced law out of his home for some time
before taking an active role in politics. Pierce was sworn in as
president on January 6th, 1853. He served for just one term,
losing the second election after being criticized over his views
on slavery and the Southern secession.
2. Rutherford B. Hayes
Rutherford B. Hayes, the 19th President of the United States,
was also a Harvard Law School alumni. After graduating from
Kenyon College in Ohio, he went on to Harvard, from which he
graduated in 1845. He opened his own practice in Lower Sandusky,
and later practiced law in Cincinnati.
3. William Howard Taft
William Howard Taft studied at Yale for his undergraduate
college career, but when he graduated in 1878 with high honors,
he chose to go to law school somewhere else. He graduated from
the University of Cincinnati in 1880 and worked as an assistant
prosecutor for Hamilton County, Ohio, before taking office as
the 27th U.S. president in 1909. After his tenure in office, he
served as the Chief of Justice from 1921 to 1930.
4. Woodrow Wilson
Woodrow Wilson is the only U.S. president to have ever obtained
a doctorate degree. He received a Ph.D. in political science
from John Hopkins University in 1886. He also taught at several
schools including Wesleyan and Princeton before becoming the
28th president.
5. Lyndon B. Johnson
Although Lyndon B. Johnson never graduated from law school, he
did attend Georgetown University Law Center after obtaining a
bachelor’s degree from the Texas State Teachers’ College.
Johnson served as vice president to John F. Kennedy from 1961
until Kennedy’s assassination in 1963. He then served as
president for one term.
6. Richard Nixon
Before the Watergate scandal, Richard Nixon was an avid student
who received a bachelor’s degree from Whittier College and went
on to attend law school at the Duke University School of Law. He
became the 37th president on January 20th, 1969, and resigned
from office in 1974. Despite his controversial political career,
Nixon went on to write several books and participate in civil
service after his presidency ended.
7. Gerald Ford
After Nixon resigned from office in 1974, his vice president,
Gerald Ford, was sworn in. Before his stint in politics, Ford, a
University of Michigan graduate, applied to the Yale School of
Law in 1935. He was initially denied, and spent time at the
University of Michigan Law School instead. He was later accepted
to Yale and graduated with a degree in law in 1941.
8. Bill Clinton
Bill Clinton was the 42nd president, serving from 1993 to 2001.
Before taking office, he studied foreign service at Georgetown
University, where he earned his Bachelor of Science degree.
After studying briefly at University College, Oxford, Clinton
attended Yale Law School and graduated in 1973. Before becoming
president, Clinton served as the Governor of Arkansas.
9. George W. Bush
George W. Bush, the 43rd president, is the only president to
date to have earned a Master’s of Business Administration. He
received his degree from Harvard Business School before
venturing into politics. He became the Governor of Texas in 1995
and was elected president in 2001. He served for two terms.
10. Barack Obama
President Barack Obama began his political career at Harvard Law
School, where he was elected president of the Harvard Law
Review. Obama graduated from Harvard in 1991 and moved to
Chicago to work at Sidney Austin law firm. Prior to attending
law school, Obama studied political science at Columbia College.
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Re: Howard "arrrrgh" Dean says
By: 12cows Date: February 15, 2015, 11:00 am
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I think that Nixon was a very influential speaker. I don't know
if that was because of education or charisma.
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Re: Howard "arrrrgh" Dean says
By: Linda Lou Date: February 15, 2015, 11:09 am
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Richard Nixon really had no charisma. In fact, he was beaten by
charisma when he ran against the good-looking JFK. But while
Nixon was a homely, paranoid man, I think the good things he did
are sadly overlooked due to Watergate. Among a few of the good
things he did...he restored relations with China, got us out of
Vietnam and ended the draft. Nixon created the EPA. He lowered
the voting age to 18. He made positive steps toward affirmative
action, desegregation, and gender equality.
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Re: Howard "arrrrgh" Dean says
By: 12cows Date: February 15, 2015, 11:35 am
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I like this:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPAesqaJ9tc
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Re: Howard "arrrrgh" Dean says
By: trollslayer Date: February 15, 2015, 11:47 am
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[quote author=Linda Lou link=topic=1389.msg19077#msg19077
date=1424020145]
Richard Nixon really had no charisma. In fact, he was beaten by
charisma when he ran against the good-looking JFK. But while
Nixon was a homely, paranoid man, I think the good things he did
are sadly overlooked due to Watergate. Among a few of the good
things he did...he restored relations with China, got us out of
Vietnam and ended the draft. Nixon created the EPA. He lowered
the voting age to 18. He made positive steps toward affirmative
action, desegregation, and gender equality.
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OTOH in todays politics it's not so much looks but the ability
to speak. Obama is a great orator. No denying it. He has
charisma. As a leader he sux. It's starting to look more and
more like if you're able to handle a selfie stick you're
qualified to be a president.
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Re: Howard "arrrrgh" Dean says
By: rapids_60 Date: February 15, 2015, 1:17 pm
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[quote author=Linda Lou link=topic=1389.msg19077#msg19077
date=1424020145]
But while Nixon was a homely, paranoid man, I think the good
things he did are sadly overlooked due to Watergate.
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I agree. He did some good things but his paranoia did him in.
He'd be considered moderate-left these days, I miss those days
when the conservative wing of the party was really mid-center.
Should Walker have a college degree? Yep. These days you cannot
be a city cop without one. It's the minimum standard for a lot
of jobs, largely because it proves you can work towards a goal
and finish what you started. Why on earth would the most
powerful position on the planet be OK with a dropout?
There are plenty of better qualified candidates that did NOT
drop out. Pass.
Carter BTW did not finish college or tech school besides
starting both. He did graduate from the Naval academy.
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Re: Howard "arrrrgh" Dean says
By: trollslayer Date: February 15, 2015, 2:28 pm
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[quote]
Walker's story about his departure from college has always been
straightforward: He attended Marquette University in Milwaukee
from 1986 to 1990, but in the spring of his fourth year he left
Marquette "in good standing" in order to take a full-time job at
the American Red Cross.[/quote]
What a terrible thing to do. Quit college to work for the Red
Cross. How many people quit college to work for say the Peace
Corps for example?
[quote]
Should Walker have a college degree? Yep. These days you cannot
be a city cop without one. [/quote]
Your point is lacking one important fact. You can drop out of a
four year program and work as a cop with a simple one year
degree.
[quote]There are plenty of better qualified candidates that did
NOT drop out. [/quote]
Like Howard Dean for example? This guy is an idiot. Al Gore?
As I said earlier Obama is one of our more educated idiots in
office and look at the damage he is causing. Below is a list of
successful people who didn't graduate college and are
successful. Sorry I've seen some real educated idiots put out
by our centers of higher learning. Having a piece of paper
saying you've graduated means about as much as a piece of paper
saying you're married. You know what the divorce rate is today
don't you?
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