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Re: Michael Moore steps in it again
By: rapids_60 Date: January 27, 2015, 11:53 pm
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[quote author=trollslayer link=topic=1362.msg18795#msg18795
date=1422404311]
Can you tell me what Obama has done to improve the economy? I'd
love to give him credit but right now nothing comes to mind.
[/quote]
What have the Republicans done to improve the economy? They
have literally stood mute for 6 years.
From those Obama-loving liberals who know nothing about
Economics at Forbes:
[quote]Economically, Could Obama Be America's Best
President?[/quote]
HTML http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamhartung/2013/05/16/economically-could-obama-be-americas-best-president/
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Re: Michael Moore steps in it again
By: trollslayer Date: January 28, 2015, 6:36 am
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[quote]What have the Republicans done to improve the economy?
They have literally stood mute for 6 years. [/quote]
You seem to have forgotten who is in charge.
Economically, could Obama be America's worse president? From
the same publication you used.
[quote]Obama likes to tout that we are doing better now than at
the worst of the recession. But every recovery is better than
the recession, by definition. So that doesn’t mean much.
The right measure and comparison for Obama’s record is not to
compare the recovery to the recession, but to compare Obama’s
recovery with other recoveries from other recessions since the
Great Depression. By that measure, what is clear is that
Obamanomics has produced the worst recovery from a recession
since the Great Depression, worse than what every other
President who has faced a recession has achieved since the Great
Depression.[/quote]
HTML http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2013/06/02/economically-could-obama-be-americas-worst-president/
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Re: Michael Moore steps in it again
By: trollslayer Date: January 28, 2015, 6:43 am
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[quote]Ah. You like everything literal....Remind us again, what
day was it when Hillary announced her candidacy?
Until she does there is no requirement she make her financials
public. Only that for third-party PAC's. [/quote]
I fail to see your point here. I cited "Hillary Pac". I
assumed that was plain to all. I said nothing about her war
chest.
[quote]They said the PAC took out a loan for $1mil while having
only $875K in the bank. Therefore they are "broke".
Except it doesn't work that way. Well, at least you can't say
the PAC is broke then turn around and claim Walker's Wisconsin
is not[/quote]
Isn't this the same definition Hillary herself used when she
said she was "broke". This is also the term used by the NY
Times. You do love your semantics.
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Re: Michael Moore steps in it again
By: trollslayer Date: January 28, 2015, 9:32 am
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Gary Sinise ( who saw the movie) has laid into Howard Dean (who
hasn't seen the movie).
[quote]"I saw 'American Sniper' and would not consider myself to
be an angry person. You certainly have a right to make stupid
blanket statements, suggesting that all people who see this film
are angry, but how is that helpful sir?" Sinise wrote on his
WhoSay page. "Do you also suggest that everyone at Warner
Brothers is angry because they released the film? That Clint
Eastwood, Jason Hall, Bradley Cooper, Sienna Miller and the rest
of the cast and crew are angry because they made the film? Chris
Kyle's story deserved to be told. It tells a story of the stress
that multiple deployments have on one military family, a family
representative of thousands of military families. It helps to
communicate the toll that the war on terror has taken on our
defenders. Defenders and families who need our support. I will
admit that perhaps somewhere among the masses of people who are
going to see the film there may be a few that might have some
anger or have been angry at some point in their lives, but, with
all due respect, what the hell are you talking about?"[/quote]
HTML http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/26/gary-sinise-howard-dean-american-sniper_n_6551004.html
Dean has since walked back his idiotic comments.
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Re: Michael Moore steps in it again
By: trollslayer Date: January 29, 2015, 5:52 pm
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This time it's MSNBC stepping in it again. A correspondent on
their low rated Morning Joe called Kyle a "racist who "went on
killing sprees." The idiocy that emanates from this network is
astounding.
[quote]NBC foreign affairs reporter Ayman Mohyeldin made the
suggestion Thursday on Morning Joe that Chris Kyle, late subject
of the hit movie “American Sniper” and credited as the most
lethal sniper in U.S. military history, had “racist tendencies”
toward Iraqis and Muslims and “went on killing sprees in Iraq on
assignment.”
“American Sniper” has given a lot of Americans an inside look at
what actually happened over in Iraq during the war. It has also
raised a national discussion on post-traumatic stress disorder,
addressing the personal issues veterans face when they come
home.
Mohyeldin’s commentary left host Joe Scarborough dumbfounded.
“Killing sprees?” Scarborough asked incredulously. “Chris Kyle
was going on killing sprees?”
“When he was involved in his — on assignments in terms of what
he was doing, a lot of the description that has come out from
his book and some of the terminology that he has used, people
have described as racist in his personal attitudes about what he
was doing overseas when he was on assignment,” Mohyeldin
sputtered.[/quote]
HTML http://freebeacon.com/culture/msnbc-reporter-racist-chris-kyle-went-on-killing-sprees-in-iraq/
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Re: Michael Moore steps in it again
By: 12cows Date: January 29, 2015, 6:02 pm
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Ayman Mohyeldin Idiot Extraordinaire.
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Re: Michael Moore steps in it again
By: trollslayer Date: January 29, 2015, 6:37 pm
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These are the type of clowns we've come to expect from NBC.
They have a "foreign affairs reporter" who states our soldiers
go on "killing sprees" in the line of duty and a "medical
reporter" who breaks quarantine after being exposed to ebola to
obtain carry out food. Then there's Rev Al but that's a whole
different story. Nothing but the cream of the crop there. Too
bad the Foxophobes overlook this kind of "reporting".
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Re: Michael Moore steps in it again
By: rapids_60 Date: January 29, 2015, 9:33 pm
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[quote author=trollslayer link=topic=1362.msg18838#msg18838
date=1422578230]
Too bad the Foxophobes overlook this kind of "reporting".
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We don't have to point it out, in fact can't...don't watch
MSNBC either. You can take care of that for us. :D
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Re: Michael Moore steps in it again
By: 12cows Date: January 30, 2015, 11:03 am
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I forgot all about this person who used to do articles in the
Daily Tribune. He can go away again and that would be fine with
me.
Terrorism hysteria leads to Islamophobia: column
Joseph Bachman 9:40 a.m. CST January 30, 2015
An undeniably troubling trend in America is a strain of
Islamophobia that I have not seen in such magnitude since just
after the terror attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. The reactions on
social media to movies like “American Sniper” have brought out
the seemingly deep-seated bigotry that still exists from
Americans toward Islam.
I am not pro-Islam, nor pro-Christian; I am agnostic, and choose
to look beyond the necessity for religion at all in a world that
is quietly going mad. However, my nose for hogwash when it comes
to hypocrisy, the media and our government has caught a slight
stench as of late, and it’s something that cannot be ignored.
First, let’s look at some simple statistics for those who are
uneasy about the alleged threat of Islam: Islam has roughly 1.6
billion followers, which is second only to Christianity in the
world. Groups like Al Qaeda and the so-called Islamic State
group, commonly called ISIS, represent an extremely small and
distorted portion of this religion, much like extremist
Christian sects do — lest we forget events like the Wisconsin
Sikh Temple massacre in Oak Creek, where a Christian extremist
gunned down six innocent Sikhs. My point is that if every Muslim
were a terrorist, I would think the at-most figure of 31,000
ISIS soldiers would be in the millions.
In fact, if you estimate the number of all terrorists in all
groups in the world, you get roughly 184,000. That means out of
all Muslims in existence, less than 0.02 percent are
“terrorists.” I would assume Christianity has similar to lesser
numbers in extremist sects.
What does all of this mean? It means that the media and movies
like “American Sniper” are only placating the ignorance that
exists in hatred towards Islam. Holding hatred for a religion,
be it Islam, Christianity, Judaism or any and all is completely
ridiculous. You want to convince me that Clint Eastwood directed
a film about a self-proclaimed Islamophobic “war hero” who
killed over 160 Iraqis with no agenda behind it at all? Our
strings are being pulled — or it’s being attempted.
What about Boko Haram? The Nigerian Islamic terrorist group has
murdered literally thousands of innocents, yet the U.S. media
gives this group virutally no attention. Why? Is it easier for
Americans to identify an enemy from Iraq and Syria than a
country in Africa?
You’re being played. Your chances of dying in a terrorist attack
amount to about 1 in 20 million. Please do not give into the
“threat” of ISIS or the need for military involvement. There are
some horrific atrocities taking place in that region, but it’s
not just ISIS, and the problem has roots in our meddling and
involvement in Iraq in the first place to look for non-existent
weapons of mass destruction. It is known that it was the Iraq
War that would essentially spawn ISIS as we know them now.
Don’t give in to media hype, or the alleged “need” for our
presence there. U.S. “presence” only means more groups like ISIS
in the future. I even wonder if this might not be what the
powers want — to keep us away from the real issues that plague
this nation, to keep as many Americans as possible in a bigoted
mindset towards Islam, and brew up a sort of new holy war. We’re
smarter and more informed than this. Don’t get swallowed into
the paranoia. Before we label ourselves Christian, Muslim,
white, black, rich or poor, let’s just be humans, first.
Joseph Bachman lives in Wisconsin Rapids. He writes frequently
for Daily Tribune Media.
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Re: Michael Moore steps in it again
By: trollslayer Date: January 30, 2015, 12:12 pm
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Just a couple of things about this article.
[quote]An undeniably troubling trend in America is a strain of
Islamophobia that I have not seen in such magnitude since just
after the terror attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. The reactions on
social media to movies like “American Sniper” have brought out
the seemingly deep-seated bigotry that still exists from
Americans toward Islam.[/quote]
Where is this "Islamophobia" and how is be being manifested?
The author states it exists but doesn't go into any detail.
Much like the idiot on MSNBC says that he's "heard" that Chris
Kyle was a racist, he's unable to provide any substance to this
irrational claim. Just another blanket statement that we've
heard frequently since the criticisms of the movie.
[quote]In fact, if you estimate the number of all terrorists in
all groups in the world, you get roughly 184,000. That means out
of all Muslims in existence, less than 0.02 percent are
“terrorists.” I would assume Christianity has similar to lesser
numbers in extremist sects.[/quote]
I would be very interested to see where the author comes up with
his statistics but much like his statement about Christian
extremists I'm sure this is just another assumption on his part
without any kind of basis in fact.
[quote]There are some horrific atrocities taking place in that
region, but it’s not just ISIS, and the problem has roots in our
meddling and involvement in Iraq in the first place to look for
non-existent weapons of mass destruction. It is known that it
was the Iraq War that would essentially spawn ISIS as we know
them now.[/quote]
Not necessarily true. What the author again over looks is ISIS
has expanded ten fold in Syria during their over three year
civil war. There hasn't been any American involvement in Syria
during this period but one of the leading talking points from
many of those of the liberal persuasion is to blame the US for
all of the world woes.
[quote]It means that the media and movies like “American Sniper”
are only placating the ignorance that exists in hatred towards
Islam. Holding hatred for a religion, be it Islam, Christianity,
Judaism or any and all is completely ridiculous. You want to
convince me that Clint Eastwood directed a film about a
self-proclaimed Islamophobic “war hero” who killed over 160
Iraqis with no agenda behind it at all? Our strings are being
pulled — or it’s being attempted.[/quote]
I'm under the only impression that the one exhibiting the most
ignorance here is the author of this op ed. Where is all this
"hatred toward Islam"? Again. much like the racism manufactured
in some of the conflicts in the US, this author has to
manufacture this hatred toward Islam. Most educated, balanced
clear thinking people know that there is a distinct difference
between Muslim Extremists and your average Muslim struggling to
make a living ( or even live) on a day to day basis.
To think that if we just leave them alone and they'll leave us
alone is another incorrect talking point. We did nothing to
cause 9-11 except merely exist. The US will always be known as
the great satan no matter what we do, or do not do.
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