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#Post#: 18790--------------------------------------------------
Re: Michael Moore steps in it again
By: trollslayer Date: January 27, 2015, 4:32 pm
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[quote] All the "negatives" you listed.... Seriously, do you
think any of that will matter to anyone outside the fox-watching
rabid righties?
Benghazi, Russia and the State department are not even in the
top 10 concerns of the average voter. Got anything the middle
class cares about? [/quote]
It all boils down to character Rapids, (or in this case lack
of). These are all items that will be brought up in the
campaign. I'm sure independents will look long and hard at her
lack of ability in the administrative department.
[quote]Poll wise, Hillary consistently cleans the clock of any
potential opponent, democrat or republican. And not by small
margins. [/quote]
All I have to say to that is google "Hillary dropping in the
polls" and see the many results that come up.
[quote]Snickers is right about this one- she's the new Teflon
Don. [/quote]
Nice Strawman
[quote]The campaign has started? No, and since it hasn't there
is no requirement to release financials. [/quote]
You seem to be one of the few who think te campaign hasn't
started yet. I suppose you think the NY Times is just lying
about Hillary PAC? If so please show where this isn't isn't the
case ;).
#Post#: 18791--------------------------------------------------
Re: Michael Moore steps in it again
By: Linda Lou Date: January 27, 2015, 5:15 pm
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I tell you this...the one governor that I always wanted to see
run for President was our Tommy Thompson. I liked the man, and
liked what he did for the state of Wisconsin.
Right now it's Hillary's election to lose. Of course, it's two
years off. But there's nobody in the Republican pool (at least
the ones being talked about) that is going to beat her.
Including that creep Walker. As much as I'd like to see him GONE
from Wisconsin, I don't wish him on the whole nation.
And Palin will never be considered by the Republicans. Oh,
sure...they'll let her lip off in Iowa and elsewhere, but she's
being used. Because she'll make ANY OTHER CANDIDATE look sane,
qualified, and intelligent.
#Post#: 18792--------------------------------------------------
Re: Michael Moore steps in it again
By: trollslayer Date: January 27, 2015, 5:18 pm
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[quote]Well, Republicans wouldn't vote for him. Not with those
socialist, job-killing wealth-distribution ideas of his.[/quote]
You may want to read you Bible again. Jesus was quoted as
saying "Give back to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is
God's."
I'm not seeing where He is calling for wealth distribution. Or
saying the rich need to pay their "fair share" only to come back
a year or two later to tell them their "fair share" has been
increased again.
[quote]Obama's up above 50% approval [/quote]
Yea and most will say it's because of the improvement in the
economy. Most will say that the economy is better because of $2
a gallon gas. Like the bump in Obama's favor ability, this too
sall pass. Gas took a bump today already.
#Post#: 18793--------------------------------------------------
Re: Michael Moore steps in it again
By: Snickers Date: January 27, 2015, 6:06 pm
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[quote author=trollslayer link=topic=1362.msg18792#msg18792
date=1422400702]
You may want to read you Bible again. Jesus was quoted as
saying "Give back to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is
God's."
I'm not seeing where He is calling for wealth distribution. Or
saying the rich need to pay their "fair share" only to come back
a year or two later to tell them their "fair share" has been
increased again.
Yea and most will say it's because of the improvement in the
economy. Most will say that the economy is better because of $2
a gallon gas. Like the bump in Obama's favor ability, this too
sall pass. Gas took a bump today already.
[/quote]
Gas will be back to around $4 a gal next year at this time.
The economy has improved IN SPITE of Obama.
It would be even so much better had he never been elected.
#Post#: 18794--------------------------------------------------
Re: Michael Moore steps in it again
By: Linda Lou Date: January 27, 2015, 6:13 pm
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So, if the economy is bad, it's Obama's fault.
If it's good, it's IN SPITE of Obama.
Can't have it both ways, Snicks.
#Post#: 18795--------------------------------------------------
Re: Michael Moore steps in it again
By: trollslayer Date: January 27, 2015, 6:18 pm
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[quote author=Linda Lou link=topic=1362.msg18794#msg18794
date=1422404006]
So, if the economy is bad, it's Obama's fault.
If it's good, it's IN SPITE of Obama.
Can't have it both ways, Snicks.
[/quote]
Can you tell me what Obama has done to improve the economy? I'd
love to give him credit but right now nothing comes to mind.
#Post#: 18798--------------------------------------------------
Re: Michael Moore steps in it again
By: Linda Lou Date: January 27, 2015, 7:21 pm
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Hey, if he can be vaguely accused of ruining everything in the
country, I can vaguely praise him when it improves!
😜
#Post#: 18799--------------------------------------------------
Re: Michael Moore steps in it again
By: wmd102 Date: January 27, 2015, 8:26 pm
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[quote author=Linda Lou link=topic=1362.msg18798#msg18798
date=1422408075]
Hey, if he can be vaguely accused of ruining everything in the
country, I can vaguely praise him when it improves!
😜
[/quote]
Uh, the price of gas just went up again! :P
#Post#: 18801--------------------------------------------------
Re: Michael Moore steps in it again
By: rapids_60 Date: January 27, 2015, 11:34 pm
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[quote author=trollslayer link=topic=1362.msg18792#msg18792
date=1422400702]
You may want to read you Bible again. Jesus was quoted as
saying "Give back to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is
God's."
[/quote]
Do you understand the intent of that phrase? In a nutshell it
means that Caesar can have his coins and his taxes, they are
unimportant to the Lord. It has also been interpreted to mean
Jesus had no issues with government collecting taxes.
It couldn't have less to do with wealth redistribution.
[quote]
I'm not seeing where He is calling for wealth distribution.
[/quote]
How many examples do you want? There are literally hundreds.
1 John 3:17
But if anyone has the world's goods and sees his brother in
need, yet closes his heart against him, how does God's love
abide in him?
Matthew 19:21
Jesus said to him, “If you would be perfect, go, sell what you
possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in
heaven; and come, follow me.”
Luke 3:10-11
And the crowds asked him, “What then shall we do?” And he
answered them, “Whoever has two tunics is to share with him who
has none, and whoever has food is to do likewise.”
Acts 2:44-46
And all who believed were together and had all things in common.
And they were selling their possessions and belongings and
distributing the proceeds to all, as any had need. And day by
day, attending the temple together and breaking bread in their
homes, they received their food with glad and generous hearts,
Oh...and Pope Francis disagrees with you as well.
[quote]Pope Francis called for “the legitimate redistribution of
economic benefits” on Friday, arguing that the Bible demands an
economic system that cares for the “poorest and those most
excluded.”[/quote]
HTML http://en.radiovaticana.va/storico/2014/05/09/pope_to_un_resist_the_economy_of_exclusion%2C_serve_the_poor/en1-797707
[quote]
Or saying the rich need to pay their "fair share" only to come
back a year or two later to tell them their "fair share" has
been increased again.
[/quote]
The bible says it will be easier to thread a camel through the
eye of a needle than for a wealthy man to enter the kingdom of
heaven.
I don't think it could be made more plain than that. A
Christian is directed to help those lesser off until they have
nothing left to share, there is no place in God's kingdom for
wealth. The idea of paying one's "fair share" and not a penny
more is rooted in greed, not Christianity.
[quote]
Yea and most will say it's because of the improvement in the
economy. Most will say that the economy is better because of $2
a gallon gas. Like the bump in Obama's favor ability, this too
sall pass. Gas took a bump today already.
[/quote]
And the stock market skyrocketing? Jobs being created at the
fastest pace since 2009? Unemployment numbers, and SNAP
participation dropping, GDP outpacing the predictions?
Yeah, you're right, it's just gas prices. People aren't
noticing they have jobs again. :D
#Post#: 18802--------------------------------------------------
Re: Michael Moore steps in it again
By: rapids_60 Date: January 27, 2015, 11:50 pm
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[quote author=trollslayer link=topic=1362.msg18790#msg18790
date=1422397941]
You seem to be one of the few who think te campaign hasn't
started yet. [/quote]
Ah. You like everything literal....Remind us again, what day
was it when Hillary announced her candidacy?
Until she does there is no requirement she make her financials
public. Only that for third-party PAC's.
You are thrilled at the implications of one PAC borrowing
money, lol. I expect your glee will be short-lived. Since you
hate "omission", another PAC, "Ready for Hillary" hit 11
million within a few weeks and still grows.
[quote]
I suppose you think the NY Times is just lying about Hillary
PAC? If so please show where this isn't isn't the case
;).[/quote]
You'd suppose wrong. Again.
They said the PAC took out a loan for $1mil while having only
$875K in the bank. Therefore they are "broke".
Except it doesn't work that way. Well, at least you can't say
the PAC is broke then turn around and claim Walker's Wisconsin
is not!
The loan is to get the donation machine started, only a fool
thinks it won't pay for itself and then some in a matter of
weeks. Your article said as much. I notice you didn't quote
that part.
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