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Re: Michael Moore steps in it again
By: trollslayer Date: January 26, 2015, 7:45 pm
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I don't know about that. I've noticed that the leaks the
originate from the White House are either trial balloons floated
or leaks that paint Obama in a good light. I thought with the
elections over we would have heard by now. Since we haven't
they may be afraid of painting Hillary in a bad light.
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Re: Michael Moore steps in it again
By: rapids_60 Date: January 26, 2015, 8:26 pm
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[quote author=trollslayer link=topic=1362.msg18777#msg18777
date=1422323130]
Since we haven't they may be afraid of painting Hillary in a
bad light.
[/quote]
Or there's more to the story that the general public won't know
for 50 years. You know we have operatives embedded in Al Qaeda
and most likely ISIL by now, right?
Sure will be a big letdown for the right if Hillary doesn't run,
lol. So much time and effort spent pinning everything on her
possible presidential run. :D
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Re: Michael Moore steps in it again
By: Jeepers Date: January 27, 2015, 12:40 am
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Here we go.
HTML http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/26/bowe-bergdahl-be-charged-desertion-retired-officer/
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Re: Michael Moore steps in it again
By: trollslayer Date: January 27, 2015, 6:42 am
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[quote author=rapids_60 link=topic=1362.msg18779#msg18779
date=1422325576]
Or there's more to the story that the general public won't know
for 50 years. You know we have operatives embedded in Al Qaeda
and most likely ISIL by now, right?
Sure will be a big letdown for the right if Hillary doesn't run,
lol. So much time and effort spent pinning everything on her
possible presidential run. :D
[/quote]
Personally, I think Palin has as much of a chance to win right
now as Hillary. There are many in her own party working against
her. I don't think Obama has forgotten the disparaging remarks
made by Bill during the '08 campaign. Plus there will be the
Obama mill stone around her neck.
What does she have to run on? Her time as a junior Senator in
NY? Her time at State? Hillary's major accomplishments at
State are___________________?
You can fill in the blanks. Benghazi? Ambassadors hiring
****s? Her flubbing the "reset with Russia"? Her "what
difference does it make" comment? A stellar resume for sure.
HTML http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/4/state-dept-misplaced-6b-under-hillary-clinton-ig-r/?page=all
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Re: Michael Moore steps in it again
By: trollslayer Date: January 27, 2015, 6:45 am
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[quote author=Jeepers link=topic=1362.msg18780#msg18780
date=1422340821]
Here we go.
HTML http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/26/bowe-bergdahl-be-charged-desertion-retired-officer/
[/quote]
This is what I've suspected all along. If true, it's better to
get it out now. The longer you try to delay this the fresher it
is in the minds of the voter in 2016. One would think the Obama
administration would have researched this better before going
through with it. This is the Guy Susan Rice said "served with
honor". ;D
[quote]Mr. Shaffer also accused the Obama administration of
trying to keep the detail of Sgt. Bergdahl’s charges hidden.
“This is shaping up to be a titanic struggle behind the scenes,”
he said. “Believe me, the Army here wants to do the right thing
… And the White House, because of the political narrative,
President Obama cozying up to the parents and because he,
President Obama, releasing the five Taliban … The narrative is
what the White House does not want to have come out.”[/quote]
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Re: Michael Moore steps in it again
By: Linda Lou Date: January 27, 2015, 12:03 pm
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Seriously, Trolly? Hillary Clinton is an established politician,
who is respected in Washington, and in the country. It wasn't
always the case, but it is now.
Palin shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as her. How
Palin came to national attention is still a mystery to me. And
I'm sure the Republican party is STILL shaking their heads and
wondering why they put her on the ticket in '08.
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Re: Michael Moore steps in it again
By: trollslayer Date: January 27, 2015, 2:18 pm
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[quote author=Linda Lou link=topic=1362.msg18784#msg18784
date=1422381819]
Seriously, Trolly? Hillary Clinton is an established politician,
who is respected in Washington, and in the country. It wasn't
always the case, but it is now.
Palin shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as her. How
Palin came to national attention is still a mystery to me. And
I'm sure the Republican party is STILL shaking their heads and
wondering why they put her on the ticket in '08.
[/quote]
Clinton is respected in Washington? I think she's respected
much like the Daly's are "respected" in Chicago. Feared I think
is a better word but that isn't such a but that isn't such a bad
thing either. However she isn't respected for anything she's
done. Right now I don't see a lot of respect given for any
"established politician". Even less for her given the reasons I
posted above and her flagrant mismanagement of State while she
was there. (Of course I don't have a lot of respect for
attorneys who brag about getting a rapist off the hook but
that's a whole different story).
Would it make you feel better if I said I thought she has a
slightly better chance of winning than say Donald Duck, Mickey
Mouse or Michael Moore? Between the baggage she's dragging and
having to follow Obama I don't think she has a snowballs chance
in He!! of winning. I think Democrats could nominate Jesus
Christ and they'd still lose.
Did you hear Hilary PAC is broke? Not a good start to the
campaign. But then again, hillary was broke a well wasn't she?
;D
[quote]According to the New York Times, on November 24, the
group had $875,626 in the bank. Problem was, they also owed $1
million for a loan from Amalgamated — a union-tied bank that
many Democrats use as a means of borrowing money. The purpose of
the loan is to expand grassroots efforts of the PAC which they
believe, in turn,will bring in many more small
contributors.[/quote]
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Re: Michael Moore steps in it again
By: Snickers Date: January 27, 2015, 3:42 pm
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I think of Hilary as more of a MAFIA Don then a politician.
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Re: Michael Moore steps in it again
By: rapids_60 Date: January 27, 2015, 4:17 pm
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[quote author=trollslayer link=topic=1362.msg18782#msg18782
date=1422362538]
Personally, I think Palin has as much of a chance to win right
now as Hillary.
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You and Karl Rove, lol.
All the "negatives" you listed.... Seriously, do you think
any of that will matter to anyone outside the fox-watching rabid
righties?
Benghazi, Russia and the State department are not even in the
top 10 concerns of the average voter. Got anything the middle
class cares about?
Poll wise, Hillary consistently cleans the clock of any
potential opponent, democrat or republican. And not by small
margins.
Snickers is right about this one- she's the new Teflon Don.
[quote]There are many in her own party working against her.
[/quote]
If you say so. Fact is Biden and several others have said they
will not run if Hillary does. She could very well face NOBODY
in a primary other than Bernie Sanders.
Might watch the republicans though...they are already baring the
fangs and ripping into each other.
HTML http://www.politico.com/story/2015/01/donald-trump-mitt-romney-jeb-bush-iowa-summit-114555.html
[quote]Did you hear Hilary PAC is broke? Not a good start to
the campaign.[/quote]
The campaign has started? No, and since it hasn't there is no
requirement to release financials.
The "broke" commentary is based on the PAC taking out a loan
for an amount larger than the PAC's cash on hand, not that they
are without cash. Hardly an unusual event.
Your own article, which you did not bother to link says " The
group is likely to show robust small-donor fund-raising in the
coming months..."
I suspect she'll announce sometime in March and have some very
large donors lined up and ready to go.
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Re: Michael Moore steps in it again
By: rapids_60 Date: January 27, 2015, 4:25 pm
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[quote author=trollslayer link=topic=1362.msg18785#msg18785
date=1422389932]
I think Democrats could nominate Jesus Christ and they'd still
lose.
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Well, Republicans wouldn't vote for him. Not with those
socialist, job-killing wealth-distribution ideas of his. ;D
A lot can change between then and now.
Obama's up above 50% approval and the Republicans have 2 years
to dig themselves a really large hole. Which they've already
started on.
Got knocked down by women in their own party on the Abortion
bill and have capitulated to Obama on Immigration, refusing to
defund his "illegal, unconstitutional power grab". And that's
just this week..... they have two long years to keep shooting
their own feet. :D
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