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       Re: The Power of the Pope 
       By: udontnojack Date: December 26, 2014, 8:36 am
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       [quote author=Linda Lou link=topic=1340.msg18377#msg18377
       date=1419439517]
       As long as the voting US public had animosity towards Cuba, no
       US leader really tried that hard to restore relations. There's
       nothing in it for us.
       [/quote]
       I hate to say you are wrong again with that point, but you are.
       There was never really an anti Cuba but an anti Castro hatred
       and all that rhetoric was drummed up by a small crowd of cafe
       con leche drinking hard liners along the Calle Ocho in Miami.
       And most of their influence has been in the Republican party.
       Their influence has shrunk to the point of outside of Lil Havana
       down in Miami, the majority of voting Americans have been for
       normalizing relations with Cuba and that number has been growing
       for over 25 years.
       You can go back to Reagan (after the Carter debacle) and the
       work of Roger Fontaine of the National Security Council and his
       attempts to establish harmonious relations between the two
       countries Something he worked very hard at and failed.
       Unfortunately the invasion of Grenada put an end to the positive
       movement being made between the two countries. Interestingly
       even after that Castro praised  the Reagan administration saying
       it was now more realisitic by  trying to solve international
       problems through dialogue.
       Should I school you now on the Clinton Years and their attempts?
       So say whatever you may but the fact remains that The Pope was
       finally able to negotiate what even Former President Carter (or
       do you want to run with the line he wasnt really trying?) just a
       few months ago was unable to. If that doesn't fit your model of
       a world leader, maybe it just has to do with some anti Catholic
       hatred you have.
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       Re: The Power of the Pope 
       By: Linda Lou Date: December 26, 2014, 9:11 am
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       You can stuff your anti-Catholic BS. I was baptized
       Catholic...my mom was raised Catholic, and all of her relatives
       and a number of my dad's are Catholic.
       I just don't feel that the pope is any more than the figurehead
       of the Catholic Church. And he shouldn't be more than that.
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