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       #Post#: 18593--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Munchkinland
       By: Jeepers Date: January 14, 2015, 10:14 pm
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       I keep hearing that Obama hasn't taken as much vacation time as
       other presidents. That might be the case if you count the days
       on vacation...I don't know. What I want to know is....how much
       did Obama's vacations cost the taxpayers in comparison to the
       previous presidents?
       #Post#: 18594--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Munchkinland
       By: trollslayer Date: January 14, 2015, 10:15 pm
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       [quote author=Snickers link=topic=1324.msg18590#msg18590
       date=1421283439]
       The Obama worshipers have now resorted to editing my posts.
       Changing  the wording in them.
       If it is unflattering to their God they will use whatever means
       necessary in their attempt to silence opposing views.
       [/quote]
       This is something new from liberals?  The Obama administration
       is urging the press to not print stories that may inflame
       Muslims.  They are harassing the press by reading their emails
       and tapping their phones, labeling them as enemies of the
       country and adding reporters to the no fly list.  You think
       liberals editing posts is something new?  Remember you're
       talking about a forum that is closed to outsiders.  You can't
       control the message any more than that.  Looking at it that way,
       why does this behavior surprise you?  Can we say control
       freaks??  Censorship?  Fear??
       #Post#: 18596--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Munchkinland
       By: rapids_60 Date: January 14, 2015, 11:06 pm
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       [quote author=Jeepers link=topic=1324.msg18593#msg18593
       date=1421295297]
       What I want to know is....how much did Obama's vacations cost
       the taxpayers in comparison to the previous presidents?
       [/quote]
       Interesting question.
       It's difficult to say, travel costs have risen (particularly
       fuel), presidential security was nearly doubled after the 9/11
       attacks and those costs have risen, and Obama has had more than
       double the number of death threats than his predecessors.
       So you can probably reasonably compare Bush and Obama, but
       cannot compare either to any president before Bush because of
       the enormous increases in security costs after 9/11.
       Presuming you find "fact check" somewhat reliable, they have
       some information dated 2011:
  HTML http://www.factcheck.org/2011/07/the-traveling-president/
       Outside that, I can only find sources like Daily Caller, WND and
       Mediaite, each of which have clear partisan agendas.  The result
       predictably depends on which you read.
       Obama does travel worldwide while Bush was more likely to
       vacation in Texas, so I'd lean towards Obama spending more for
       that reason alone.
       Other presidents have traveled worldwide like Obama, but during
       eras where the costs were far less.  If we were to adjust those
       vacations for security increases and inflation, I don't know
       what the final answer might be.
       #Post#: 18598--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Munchkinland
       By: Linda Lou Date: January 15, 2015, 6:14 am
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       Why do you guys feel the need to chatter on about another forum?
       If you don't like it, don't go there!
       #Post#: 18600--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Munchkinland
       By: trollslayer Date: January 15, 2015, 6:40 am
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       [quote author=Linda Lou link=topic=1324.msg18598#msg18598
       date=1421324081]
       Why do you guys feel the need to chatter on about another forum?
       If you don't like it, don't go there!
       [/quote]
       It's not a matter of liking it or not liking it.  You'll find
       it's a topic for discussion, (please note subject line) one
       you've engaged in more than once.  You know what they say about
       pointing fingers.
       Kinda funny, I don't go there yet I can't talk about it?
       Remember the outrage over the Arkansas kid commenting on Walker.
       Seems posters were chastised for this behavior.
       #Post#: 18602--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Munchkinland
       By: trollslayer Date: January 15, 2015, 7:53 am
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       [quote]and Obama has had more than double the number of death
       threats than his predecessors. [/quote]
       Why would this increase the cost of security?
       #Post#: 18605--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Munchkinland
       By: Linda Lou Date: January 15, 2015, 8:20 am
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       Whatever.  ::)
       #Post#: 18607--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Munchkinland
       By: Snickers Date: January 15, 2015, 4:41 pm
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       Linda
       Are you aware that  when I  posted off subject over in
       Munchkinland as you did here.
       I was punished for doing so.  ;) ;) :D
       I was given a nasty warning and awarded a bunch of those silly
       penalty points.
       
       #Post#: 18611--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Munchkinland
       By: rapids_60 Date: January 15, 2015, 9:20 pm
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       [quote author=trollslayer link=topic=1324.msg18602#msg18602
       date=1421330003]
       Why would this increase the cost of security?
       [/quote]
       Investigating threats has a price tag.
       I was wrong BTW.  The number of death threats didn't double over
       Bush, it Quadrupled.
       #Post#: 18612--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Munchkinland
       By: Linda Lou Date: January 15, 2015, 9:24 pm
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       [quote author=Snickers link=topic=1324.msg18607#msg18607
       date=1421361684]
       Linda
       Are you aware that  when I  posted off subject over in
       Munchkinland as you did here.
       I was punished for doing so.  ;) ;) :D
       I was given a nasty warning and awarded a bunch of those silly
       penalty points.
       
       [/quote]
       How am I off topic? The subject is Munchkinland, and that's what
       I discussed.
       Oh, I got it. I didn't WHINE about that forum like certain big
       babies...
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