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#Post#: 17876--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hagel is out
By: trollslayer Date: November 26, 2014, 10:29 pm
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[quote author=rapids_60 link=topic=1316.msg17863#msg17863
date=1417039853]
Buried in the second link may be the reason why....
The four big lies. Looks like repetition worked. I suppose
this is pointless as you are going to argue the public was
against Obamacare, while I'll argue they are actually against
things the ACA never actually included.
[/quote]
I said the majority was against Obamacare when it was voted in.
You said I was wrong. I showed you where I was correct and
provided a couple links to back me up now you want to break it
down even further.
[quote]55% believe it will allow access to illegal
immigrants,[/quote]
So how do you prove this 55% wrong? You simply make the
illegals legal with your pen and your phone. At the same time I
find myself laughing hysterically at your premise that
Republicans somehow lied trying to keep the ACA from passing all
the while forgetting that the ACA passed based on lies and
obfuscation, (not to mention the stupidity of the American
people.) Sorry Rapids, Your argument doesn't cut it.
#Post#: 17879--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hagel is out
By: rapids_60 Date: November 27, 2014, 1:05 am
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[quote author=trollslayer link=topic=1316.msg17876#msg17876
date=1417062567]
Republicans somehow lied trying to keep the ACA from passing
[/quote]
They didn't?
#Post#: 17880--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hagel is out
By: rapids_60 Date: November 27, 2014, 1:14 am
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[quote author=wmd102 link=topic=1316.msg17872#msg17872
date=1417055539]
If this is a lie feel free file a slander suite. I triple dog
dare you!
[/quote]
You apparently have me confused with another poster.
[quote]
Only 4? Every word that comes Obama's mouth is a lie including
the and's and the the's.
[/quote]
For the most part. But recall nobody really knew what was in
the ACA when it was voted on. Need I re-quote Nancy Pelosi?
Obama lied to make it look good, the Republicans lied to
make it look bad. According to TS's links, the Republicans did
a better job!
#Post#: 17885--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hagel is out
By: trollslayer Date: November 27, 2014, 7:52 am
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[quote author=rapids_60 link=topic=1316.msg17880#msg17880
date=1417072474]
Obama lied to make it look good, the Republicans lied to
make it look bad. According to TS's links, the Republicans did
a better job!
[/quote]
If that were the case, it would have never passed. But then
again, they didn't get the lie of the year over death panels
(since this actually has a basis in fact) but Obama is the proud
recipient of this award for If you like your plan......
If you like your doctor......
#Post#: 17903--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hagel is out
By: Linda Lou Date: November 27, 2014, 11:28 am
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That one still grates on me, Trolly. He promised people that
they could keep their insurance, and keep their doctors.
#Post#: 17905--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hagel is out
By: trollslayer Date: November 27, 2014, 4:27 pm
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[quote author=Linda Lou link=topic=1316.msg17903#msg17903
date=1417109329]
That one still grates on me, Trolly. He promised people that
they could keep their insurance, and keep their doctors.
[/quote]
It would have never passed if he said you may lose your doctor
and you could lose insurance and that $2500 dollars in savings
for a family of four is a fairy tale.
#Post#: 17906--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hagel is out
By: Snickers Date: November 27, 2014, 8:09 pm
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[quote author=trollslayer link=topic=1316.msg17905#msg17905
date=1417127270]
It would have never passed if he said you may lose your doctor
and you could lose insurance and that $2500 dollars in savings
for a family of four is a fairy tale.
[/quote]
Obama is a liar, a cheat, and a swindler.
#Post#: 17913--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hagel is out
By: rapids_60 Date: November 28, 2014, 2:23 am
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[quote author=trollslayer link=topic=1316.msg17905#msg17905
date=1417127270]
It would have never passed if he said you may lose your doctor
and you could lose insurance and that $2500 dollars in savings
for a family of four is a fairy tale.
[/quote]
That's the truth.
No savings over this way, the cheapest ACA plan is a couple
hundred more than I pay now, with much larger deductibles and
far worse coverage. It's worse than it was when I looked last
year.
It's really only benefiting a very small group of people- the
working poor, just above the poverty line. Below that you are
exempt, above that and you get gouged.
#Post#: 17914--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hagel is out
By: rapids_60 Date: November 28, 2014, 2:23 am
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[quote author=Snickers link=topic=1316.msg17906#msg17906
date=1417140545]
Obama is a liar, a cheat, and a swindler.
[/quote]
What modern politician does that not describe?
#Post#: 17919--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hagel is out
By: Snickers Date: November 28, 2014, 10:40 am
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[quote author=rapids_60 link=topic=1316.msg17914#msg17914
date=1417163019]
What modern politician does that not describe?
[/quote]
I guess should have included the words "the biggest ever" in
that statement.
Obama is a disgrace to America.
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