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#Post#: 17834--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hagel is out
DIR By: rapids_60
Date: November 25, 2014, 3:26 pm
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> . They are continuing the draw down, reducing benefits while
tasking the military more and more on a weekly basis.
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I'm somewhat amazed by how little today's enlistee gets in
benefits. Even the GI Educational bill seems to be watered down
and loaded with conditions.
How much of this is the result of budget sequestration?
#Post#: 17835--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hagel is out
DIR By: trollslayer
Date: November 25, 2014, 3:28 pm
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Judging from comments from previous Secretaries of Defense, it
sounds to me like the changes need to be made at the very top.
The job of Defense Secretary seems to be pretty much a
figurehead only in this administration.
#Post#: 17838--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hagel is out
DIR By: trollslayer
Date: November 25, 2014, 3:37 pm
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--- Quote from: rapids_60 link ---
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> You may be correct that the majority does not want the bill in
it's current form, but that is a different argument.
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But the current form is what we have and that is the argument.
#Post#: 17839--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hagel is out
DIR By: rapids_60
Date: November 25, 2014, 3:39 pm
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--- Quote from: trollslayer link ---
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> But the current form is what we have and that is the argument.
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Your comment was regarding voting for a bill the majority didn't
want. That isn't now, that was then. The majority was not
against the ACA when the vote was held.
#Post#: 17840--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hagel is out
DIR By: trollslayer
Date: November 25, 2014, 3:45 pm
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--- Quote from: rapids_60 link ---
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> Your comment was regarding voting for a bill the majority
didn't want. That isn't now, that was then. The majority was
not against the ACA when the vote was held.
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I seem to remember otherwise and right now I have neither the
time or the inclination to google something from five years ago.
#Post#: 17841--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hagel is out
DIR By: Snickers
Date: November 25, 2014, 4:44 pm
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--- Quote from: rapids_60 link ---
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> Your comment was regarding voting for a bill the majority
didn't want. That isn't now, that was then. The majority was
not against the ACA when the vote was held.
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Yes it was.
And even if it wasn't.
It was a fraud and lies
#Post#: 17849--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hagel is out
DIR By: rapids_60
Date: November 25, 2014, 8:55 pm
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--- Quote from: trollslayer link ---
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> I seem to remember otherwise and right now I have neither the
time or the inclination to google something from five years ago.
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You don't need to. It's was one of the foundations of Obama's
campaign, sweeping him and two Dem majorities into power. In
case your memory is lacking.
From those Libs at the WSJ:
HTML http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/WSJ_NewsPoll_042809.pdf
Politico has a compilation of polls on the ACA in timeline
fashion, they all show the same trend- majority support for
reform, which did not turn into majority opposition until after
the ACA was passed. ie AFTER it was voted on.
#Post#: 17859--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hagel is out
DIR By: trollslayer
Date: November 26, 2014, 8:06 am
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--- Quote from: rapids_60 link ---
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> You don't need to. It's was one of the foundations of Obama's
campaign, sweeping him and two Dem majorities into power. In
case your memory is lacking.
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Kind of revising history there a little bit aren't you?
Healthcare had little if anything to do with Obama and the Dem's
gaining control. Bush had more to do with a Democratic victory
than anything else. Today I have a little more time and here
are polls from those righties at CNN and NBC in 2009 showing how
unpopular the ACA was just months before passing. 48% for, 51%
against. The link says it all.
HTML http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/02/cnn-poll-majority-now-oppose-obamacare/
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> And according to a brand-new NBC News poll, 47% of Americans —
a plurality — oppose the public plan, versus 43% who support it.
That’s a shift from last month’s NBC/WSJ poll, when 46% said
they backed it and 44% were opposed.
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HTML http://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/18/wsjnbc-poll-shows-obamacare-fading/
#Post#: 17863--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hagel is out
DIR By: rapids_60
Date: November 26, 2014, 4:10 pm
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Buried in the second link may be the reason why....
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> What will ObamaCare bring?
> 55% believe it will allow access to illegal immigrants,
> 54% believe it will lead to a full gov’t takeover of the
health-care system, and 50% believe that tax money will pay for
abortions.
> On the plus side, 50% thought death panels were unlikely to
happen, although 45% weren’t as sanguine.
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The four big lies. Looks like repetition worked. I suppose
this is pointless as you are going to argue the public was
against Obamacare, while I'll argue they are actually against
things the ACA never actually included.
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Re: Hagel is out
DIR By: wmd102
Date: November 26, 2014, 8:32 pm
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--- Quote from: rapids_60 link ---
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> Buried in the second link may be the reason why....
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> The four big lies. Looks like repetition worked.
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Only 4? Every word that comes Obama's mouth is a lie including
the and's and the the's.
The only purpose to the alleged "ACA" is to scare ignorant
people into voting in corrupt Democrats out of fear of mortal
danger!
If this is a lie feel free file a slander suite. I triple dog
dare you!
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