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       #Post#: 17801--------------------------------------------------
       Hagel is out
       By: trollslayer Date: November 24, 2014, 8:40 am
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       In a confirmation of the failing foreign policy of the Obama
       administration, after one brief year, Hagel is out as Defense
       Secretary.
       [quote]NYT: HAGEL RESIGNING UNDER PRESSURE – The Times’s Helene
       Cooper: “Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel is stepping down under
       pressure, the first cabinet-level casualty of the collapse of
       President Obama’s Democratic majority in the Senate and a
       beleaguered national security team that has struggled to stay
       ahead of an onslaught of global crises. The president, who is
       expected to announce Mr. Hagel’s resignation in a Rose Garden
       appearance on Monday, made the decision to ask his defense
       secretary — the sole Republican on his national security team —
       to step down last Friday after a series of meetings over the
       past two weeks, senior administration officials said.”
       --“The officials described Mr. Obama’s decision to remove Mr.
       Hagel, 68, as a recognition that the threat from the Islamic
       State would require a different kind of skills than those that
       Mr. Hagel was brought on to employ. A Republican with military
       experience who was skeptical about the Iraq war, Mr. Hagel came
       in to manage the Afghanistan combat withdrawal and the shrinking
       Pentagon budget in the era of budget sequestration. … Even
       before the announcement of Mr. Hagel’s removal, Obama officials
       were speculating on his possible replacement. At the top of the
       list are Michele Flournoy, the former under secretary of
       defense; Senator Jack Reed, Democrat of Rhode Island and a
       former officer with the Army’s 82nd Airborne; and Ashton Carter,
       a former deputy secretary of defense.”[/quote]
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       #Post#: 17804--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hagel is out
       By: Snickers Date: November 24, 2014, 10:49 am
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       Hagel was in way over his head.
       Now Obama wants to appoint a liberal ideologist to that
       position that has absolutely no military experience to replace
       him.
       #Post#: 17805--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hagel is out
       By: trollslayer Date: November 24, 2014, 10:53 am
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       [quote author=Snickers link=topic=1316.msg17804#msg17804
       date=1416847766]
       Hagel was in way over his head.
       Now Obama wants to appoint a liberal ideologist to that
       position that has absolutely no military experience to replace
       him.
       [/quote]
       He can't appoint himself.  ;)
       #Post#: 17806--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hagel is out
       By: Snickers Date: November 24, 2014, 11:32 am
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       [quote author=trollslayer link=topic=1316.msg17805#msg17805
       date=1416847995]
       He can't appoint himself.  ;)
       [/quote]
       No
       There are all kinds of little George Soros puppets out there.
       They are called "useful idiots"
       #Post#: 17809--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hagel is out
       By: rapids_60 Date: November 24, 2014, 4:07 pm
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       [quote author=Snickers link=topic=1316.msg17806#msg17806
       date=1416850326]
       No
       There are all kinds of little George Soros puppets out there.
       They are called "useful idiots"
       [/quote]
       Funny, some call the Republican puppets "useless idiots".  :D
       #Post#: 17826--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hagel is out
       By: trollslayer Date: November 25, 2014, 8:55 am
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       [quote author=rapids_60 link=topic=1316.msg17809#msg17809
       date=1416866840]
       Funny, some call the Republican puppets "useless idiots".  :D
       [/quote]
       Kinda funny, one week people are talking about the divisions
       within the Republican party, the next they're puppets.  A real
       puppet follows the leader, votes for a bill that a majority of
       Americans don't want but votes for it anyway because the
       American people are too stupid to know the difference.
       #Post#: 17827--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hagel is out
       By: Snickers Date: November 25, 2014, 9:29 am
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       [quote author=trollslayer link=topic=1316.msg17826#msg17826
       date=1416927325]
       Kinda funny, one week people are talking about the divisions
       within the Republican party, the next they're puppets.  A real
       puppet follows the leader, votes for a bill that a majority of
       Americans don't want but votes for it anyway because the
       American people are too stupid to know the difference.
       [/quote]
       Good one  :D
       #Post#: 17830--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hagel is out
       By: trollslayer Date: November 25, 2014, 9:43 am
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       [quote author=Snickers link=topic=1316.msg17827#msg17827
       date=1416929359]
       Good one  :D
       [/quote]
       The puppets are finding that the American people aren't that
       stupid.  Nearly half of those who voted for the ACA in the
       Senate are gone
       #Post#: 17832--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hagel is out
       By: Notso Date: November 25, 2014, 11:35 am
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       I think it's good he is gone, he was hired to complete the
       possible 20%ish draw down from 540 to 420 thou in a peacetime
       military with the 1500 or so guys called "special operators"
       handling any flare ups and saving the world every time just like
       in the movies.
       Things have changed.  They are continuing the draw down,
       reducing benefits while tasking the military more and more on a
       weekly basis.
       When things change this much in just two years, even if Hagel
       the Republican is a good guy, new blood is needed at the top to
       face the new demands.
       #Post#: 17833--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hagel is out
       By: rapids_60 Date: November 25, 2014, 3:25 pm
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       [quote author=trollslayer link=topic=1316.msg17826#msg17826
       date=1416927325]
       votes for a bill that a majority of Americans don't want
       [/quote]
       Interesting.  Can you find a poll that says the American people
       did not want the ACA before the ACA vote was held?   IIRC public
       support for healthcare reform at the time was fairly
       overwhelming.  It's one of the things that swept Dem majorities
       into office.
       You may be correct that the majority does not want the bill in
       it's current form, but that is a different argument.
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