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       #Post#: 17627--------------------------------------------------
       Obama's latest folly
       By: trollslayer Date: November 12, 2014, 9:11 am
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       Today Obama signs an agreement with China (one of the worlds
       biggest polluters) cutting our carbon emissions by approximately
       26% of it's 2005 level.  Meanwhile China agrees to cut it's
       emissions after 2030 and may even increase them until then!!!!!
       I would love to sell our current President a car.  The saying
       there is a sucker born every minute certainly applies to him.
       [quote]The two nations have achieved "an historic agreement,"
       President Obama said in a joint news conference here with his
       Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping on the final day of his three-day
       China visit. The deal represents "a major milestone in the
       U.S.-China relationship," said Obama in the Great Hall of the
       People. "It shows what's possible when we work together on an
       urgent global challenge."
       The United States will double the pace of carbon emission
       reduction, he said, to 26% to 28% of its 2005 level.
       China intends to peak carbon dioxide emissions around 2030, and
       increase the non-fossil fuel share of all energy to around 20%
       by 2030, said Obama, in what the White House called the first
       ever Chinese agreement to set a ceiling on its CO2 limits.
       [/quote]
  HTML http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/11/11/china-climate-change-deal/18895661/
       #Post#: 17629--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Obama's latest folly
       By: rapids_60 Date: November 12, 2014, 4:50 pm
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       I don't get it either.  Just read earlier today about the
       Chinese hacking our weather satellite infrastructure.   They
       break in to one government agency after another.   Yet they get
       rewarded for their bad behavior?   I'd just as soon slap tariffs
       on every Chinese product sent here.
       And why aren't we hardening our own infrastructure?  2/3 of our
       power plants are wide open to attack? Seriously?
       #Post#: 17637--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Obama's latest folly
       By: Linda Lou Date: November 12, 2014, 6:54 pm
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       This is a joke. The Chinese are cranking out new coal plants
       every day. And we are going to give them THIRTY YEARS to slow
       down? This is foolishness.
       #Post#: 17638--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Obama's latest folly
       By: Snickers Date: November 12, 2014, 7:08 pm
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       An agreement with China... Chinas word is worthless.
       This "deal" is all about Obamas ego.
       He vowed to shut down most of our coal power plants years ago.
       This is just him going around Congress in an attempt to do just
       that.
       Cutting back room deals with China and Iran without Congress
       approval.
       Obama is a dictator. Not a President.
       
       #Post#: 17644--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Obama's latest folly
       By: Linda Lou Date: November 12, 2014, 9:09 pm
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       Snickers, could you possibly engage in intelligent conversation?
       Without name calling and broad accusations?
       #Post#: 17647--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Obama's latest folly
       By: trollslayer Date: November 12, 2014, 9:34 pm
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       [quote author=rapids_60 link=topic=1310.msg17629#msg17629
       date=1415832651]
       I don't get it either.  Just read earlier today about the
       Chinese hacking our weather satellite infrastructure.   They
       break in to one government agency after another.   Yet they get
       rewarded for their bad behavior?   I'd just as soon slap tariffs
       on every Chinese product sent here.
       And why aren't we hardening our own infrastructure?  2/3 of our
       power plants are wide open to attack? Seriously?
       [/quote]
       We probably are hardening our infrastructure. It's just a matter
       of keeping up. I'm sure we're doing the same thing. Just aren't
       bragging about it anymore.
       #Post#: 17648--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Obama's latest folly
       By: Snickers Date: November 12, 2014, 9:48 pm
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       [quote author=Linda Lou link=topic=1310.msg17644#msg17644
       date=1415848175]
       Snickers, could you possibly engage in intelligent conversation?
       Without name calling and broad accusations?
       [/quote]
       Excuse me.
       Maybe we could talk about Sarah Palin?  ;)
       Or maybe her daughter Bristol?
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       Re: Obama's latest folly
       By: trollslayer Date: November 12, 2014, 9:55 pm
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       I seem to remember people saying Palin's 15 minutes of fame was
       over....6 years ago.
       #Post#: 17651--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Obama's latest folly
       By: Linda Lou Date: November 12, 2014, 10:17 pm
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       Without Fox News it would have been over...
       #Post#: 17654--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Obama's latest folly
       By: Snickers Date: November 12, 2014, 10:32 pm
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       [quote author=trollslayer link=topic=1310.msg17650#msg17650
       date=1415850941]
       I seem to remember people saying Palin's 15 minutes of fame was
       over....6 years ago.
       [/quote]  You should have seen the crap that had been posted
       about Sarah Palin, her daughters, and other family members over
       in Munchkinland.
       The nasty names that were called, and all the ridiculous
       accusations that were made.
       But post anything about Obama and your intelligence is
       questioned.
       
       Just what kind of policies did Palin subject the American
       people to that were damaging? What terrible things took place
       under her control?
       Now Obama on the other hand...we can go on and on and on.
       Obamacare, Fast and Furious, IRS targeting and harassing
       conservatives, Benghazi, Solyindra and the other "green" company
       scandals, Cash for Clunkers, to name just a few  and the list
       goes on and on and on.
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