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       #Post#: 16492--------------------------------------------------
       "Beer frig" environmentalism
       By: Notso Date: September 29, 2014, 8:28 am
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       All summer I was using a small newer energy star chest freezer
       in the garage for extra freezer space.  This weekend I emptied
       it out and moved the food to the top of my "Beer frig", an older
       (unused this summer) top freezer/frig located against an inside
       wall in the living space, then added the beer and soda from the
       kitchen frig.
       Now, my thinking is, with the furnace getting turned on this
       week and the near 100% heating efficiency of any refrigerator.
       Running this old beer frig inside essentially costs me almost
       nothing as the heat is needed in the house anyway.  Am I wrong?
       #Post#: 16494--------------------------------------------------
       Re: "Beer frig" environmentalism
       By: rapids_60 Date: September 29, 2014, 1:14 pm
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       Any heat you add to the house is heat the furnace doesn't have
       to produce.
       So  the true cost of running the fridge (during heating season)
       is basically only the portion lost to inefficiency.
       That can be multiplied up or down by the difference in fuel
       costs- electricity Vs. whatever the furnace uses.
       #Post#: 16510--------------------------------------------------
       Re: "Beer frig" environmentalism
       By: Sheila Date: September 29, 2014, 4:49 pm
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       [quote author=Notso link=topic=1250.msg16492#msg16492
       date=1411997311]
       All summer I was using a small newer energy star chest freezer
       in the garage for extra freezer space.  This weekend I emptied
       it out and moved the food to the top of my "Beer frig", an older
       (unused this summer) top freezer/frig located against an inside
       wall in the living space, then added the beer and soda from the
       kitchen frig.
       Now, my thinking is, with the furnace getting turned on this
       week and the near 100% heating efficiency of any refrigerator.
       Running this old beer frig inside essentially costs me almost
       nothing as the heat is needed in the house anyway.  Am I wrong?
       [/quote]
       "an older..." fridge. How old?
       #Post#: 16540--------------------------------------------------
       Re: "Beer frig" environmentalism
       By: Notso Date: September 30, 2014, 9:47 am
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       [quote author=Sheila link=topic=1250.msg16510#msg16510
       date=1412027349]
       "an older..." fridge. How old?
       [/quote]
       Prolly 25 years.  My thinking is, it doesn't matter.  Even if it
       is a terribly old inefficient frig drawing 800 watts the better
       part of the day, it will be emitting those 800 watts in heat,
       making it the equivalent of a space heater set somewhere between
       low and medium while cooling my beer for free, no?
       #Post#: 16541--------------------------------------------------
       Re: "Beer frig" environmentalism
       By: rapids_60 Date: September 30, 2014, 1:42 pm
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       [quote author=Notso link=topic=1250.msg16540#msg16540
       date=1412088475]
       the equivalent of a space heater set somewhere between low and
       medium while cooling my beer for free, no?
       [/quote]
       Yep.    Those older fridges aren't necessarily worse on energy
       than the new ones either.
       I hung a wattmeter on my old one, and it's brand-spankin new
       energy star replacement.
       The old one uses less energy.
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