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Re: 13 hours at Benghazi
By: rapids_60 Date: September 9, 2014, 10:04 pm
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No comments on Mike Rogers (R) interview on FOX today, eh?
Summary:
Rogers, whose committee found that no such “stand down” order
was given, defended the station chief’s momentary hesitation and
accused lawyers connected with the men and their book of lodging
sensationalistic claims in order to sell more books.
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Re: 13 hours at Benghazi
By: trollslayer Date: September 10, 2014, 3:25 am
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[quote author=rapids_60 link=topic=1216.msg15932#msg15932
date=1410318252]
No comments on Mike Rogers (R) interview on FOX today, eh?
Summary:
Rogers, whose committee found that no such “stand down” order
was given, defended the station chief’s momentary hesitation and
accused lawyers connected with the men and their book of lodging
sensationalistic claims in order to sell more books.
[/quote]
Didn't see it, didn't hear about it until now. It must have
been on one of my trips to the fridge. Everybody's entitled to
their position and their semantics. I'm not sure I would
consider thirty minutes a "momentary hesitation", especially
when you know your comrades in arms are being fired on, keeping
in mind that the order to engage was never given.
I guess we could call Obama's reluctance to engage ISIS a
momentary hesitation as well since it took a year for him to
actually give the order to engage.
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Re: 13 hours at Benghazi
By: Snickers Date: September 10, 2014, 10:26 am
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[quote author=rapids_60 link=topic=1216.msg15917#msg15917
date=1410141372]
Actually, he's not. He's asked Congress to have options on his
desk after November. The "pen and a phone" thing got shelved.
But here's a question for you: would executive action happen if
Congress were doing it's job?
[/quote]
It's only been "shelved" until after the November elections.
He is still planning on using Executive Order after the
November elections.
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Re: 13 hours at Benghazi
By: trollslayer Date: September 15, 2014, 9:08 am
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And the plot thickens.....
[quote]
Sharyl Attkisson Reports Hillary's Cronies Hid Damaging
Benghazi Documents
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A former State Department diplomat is claiming that Hillary
Clinton's cronies were part of an operation to “separate”
damaging documents before they were turned over to the
Accountability Review Board investigating security lapses
surrounding the Sept. 11, 2012, terrorist attacks on the U.S.
mission in Benghazi, Libya. This is according to a bombshell
report in "The Daily Signal" by investigative reporter Sharyl
Attkisson
That Accountability Review Board has been used by the
administration and state department as proof there was no
wrongdoing associated with the Benghazi attack even though Ms.
Clinton and other senior State Department officials were not
interviewed/investigated as part of the inquiry.
According to former Deputy Assistant Secretary Raymond
Maxwell, the after-hours session took place over a weekend in a
basement operations-type center at State Department headquarters
in Washington, D.C. This is the first time Maxwell has publicly
come forward with the story.
At the time, Maxwell was a leader in the State Department’s
Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs (NEA), which was charged with
collecting emails and documents relevant to the Benghazi probe.
“I was not invited to that after-hours endeavor, but I heard
about it and decided to check it out on a Sunday afternoon,”
says Maxwell.
He didn’t know it then, but Maxwell would ultimately become
one of four State Department officials singled out for
discipline—he says scapegoated—then later cleared for
devastating security lapses leading up to the attacks.
According to Maxwell the weekend document selection session took
place in the basement of the State Department headquarters, a
large room with computers, big monitors meant for emergency
planning (like 9/11/12).
When he arrived, Maxwell says he observed boxes and stacks
of documents. He says a State Department office director, whom
Maxwell described as close to Clinton’s top advisers, was there.
Though the office director technically worked for him, Maxwell
says he wasn’t consulted about her weekend assignment.
“She told me, ‘Ray, we are to go through these stacks and
pull out anything that might put anybody in the [Near Eastern
Affairs] front office or the seventh floor in a bad light,’”
says Maxwell. He says “seventh floor” was State Department
shorthand for then-Secretary of State Clinton and her principal
advisors.
“I asked her, ‘But isn’t that unethical?’ She responded,
‘Ray, those are our orders.’ ”
A few minutes after he arrived, Maxwell says in walked two
high-ranking State Department officials.
Did Hillary Clinton aides withhold damaging Benghazi
documents?
Maxwell says the two officials, close confidants of Clinton,
appeared to check in on the operation and soon left.
Maxwell says after those two officials arrived, he, the
office director and an intern moved into a small office where
they looked through some papers. Maxwell says his stack included
pre-attack telegrams and cables between the U.S. embassy in
Tripoli and State Department headquarters. After a short time,
Maxwell says he decided to leave.
“I didn’t feel good about it,” he said.
In the end Maxwell was singled out as one of four state
department officials blamed for the lack of security at the
Benghazi mission and placed on administrative leave for a year.
Although he got paid for staying home Maxwell is angry about the
scapegoating and damage to his reputation. He should provide a
very interesting testimony to the House Select Committee on
Benghazi.
The members of Accountability Review Board claimed all along
that their investigation had unfettered access and was totally
independent. According to Maxwell Maxwell when he heard that
claim he couldn’t help but wonder if the review board—perhaps
unknowingly—had received from his bureau a scrubbed set of
documents with the most damaging material missing.
Maxwell also disputes the independence claim:
Saying the ARB was “anything but independent,” pointing to
[Former FBI Chief] Mullen’s admission in congressional testimony
that he called Clinton chief of staff Cheryl Mills to give her
inside advice after the ARB interviewed a potential
congressional witness.
“The ARB inquiry was, at best, a shoddily executed attempt
at damage control, both in Foggy Bottom and on Capitol Hill,”
says Maxwell. He views the after-hours operation he witnessed in
the State Department basement as “an exercise in misdirection.”
Maxwell will testify before the committee and if the panel can
produce corroborative evidence, his testimony will be a
nightmare for Ms. Clinton in 2016. [/quote]
HTML http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2014/09/sharyl-attkisson-hillarys-cronies-hid.html
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Re: 13 hours at Benghazi
By: rapids_60 Date: September 15, 2014, 3:13 pm
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Wouldn't be surprising if a little housecleaning was done.
Any source for this other than websites and blogs that cater to
the far right?
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Re: 13 hours at Benghazi
By: trollslayer Date: September 15, 2014, 3:38 pm
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[quote author=rapids_60 link=topic=1216.msg16086#msg16086
date=1410811983]
Wouldn't be surprising if a little housecleaning was done.
Any source for this other than websites and blogs that cater to
the far right?
[/quote]
Just this from MediaMatters trying to discredit what was
reported. They however have nothing new to add to it other than
dissing the reporter who reported it and the person who was
involved. I feel I need to bathe after going to this site
[quote]A new report from discredited investigative journalist
Sharyl Attkisson baselessly suggested State Department staff
removed damaging documents on Benghazi instead of turning them
over to the Accountability Review Board (ARB) for investigation.
But Attkisson's claims have been denied by the State Department
and are based solely on speculations from a disgruntled employee
after he was disciplined for his "lack of leadership" and
engagement by the ARB.
In a September 15 report for The Daily Signal, a publication of
the conservative Heritage Foundation, Attkisson reported that a
former State Department diplomat alleges that "Hillary Clinton
confidants were part of an operation to 'separate' damaging
documents before they were turned over to the Accountability
Review Board investigating security lapses surrounding the Sept.
11, 2012, terrorist attacks on the U.S. mission in Benghazi,
Libya." The Daily Signal described this as a "Benghazi
Bombshell."
Attkisson reported that the diplomat, Raymond Maxwell, a former
deputy assistant secretary responsible for North Africa, says
that in late 2012 he observed an "after-hours session" at which
a State Department office director "close to Clinton's top
advisers" directed staff to separate out Benghazi documents
"that might put anybody in the Near Eastern Affairs front office
or the seventh floor in a bad light" from "boxes and stacks of
documents." Attkisson notes that "'seventh floor' was State
Department shorthand for then-Secretary of State Clinton and her
principal advisors." Maxwell told Attkisson that while he was
present, Clinton Chief of Staff Cheryl Mills and Deputy Chief of
Staff Jake Sullivan "appeared to check in on the operation and
soon left."
Speculating that potentially missing, possibly damaging
documents made it impossible for the ARB's investigation to be
thorough, Attkisson reported that Maxwell said "he couldn't help
but wonder if the ARB--perhaps unknowingly--had received from
his bureau a scrubbed set of documents with the most damaging
material missing."[/quote]
HTML http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/09/15/scrubbed-benghazi-docs-bombshell-is-based-on-ev/200756
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Re: 13 hours at Benghazi
By: rapids_60 Date: September 15, 2014, 10:29 pm
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[quote author=trollslayer link=topic=1216.msg16087#msg16087
date=1410813499]
I feel I need to bathe after going to this site
[/quote]
Looks like you've been visiting several sites that leave one
needing a shower. :D
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Re: 13 hours at Benghazi
By: trollslayer Date: September 15, 2014, 10:44 pm
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[quote author=rapids_60 link=topic=1216.msg16095#msg16095
date=1410838147]
Looks like you've been visiting several sites that leave one
needing a shower. :D
[/quote]
Haven't we all?
However when a website (who happens to enjoy 501c3 status)
starts off their unbiased story by calling the reporter a
"discredited investigative journalist" without say why they're
"discredited" or to call a source "a disgruntled employee"
without really investigating the story shows them to be the
biased source they really are. Was the employee disgruntled
because they refused to participate in the cleansing of
documents or because they were disciplined. Some on the left
will presume he is just a "disgruntled employee" while ignoring
the fact this has been a 21 year government employee.
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Re: 13 hours at Benghazi
By: rapids_60 Date: September 15, 2014, 11:50 pm
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[quote author=trollslayer link=topic=1216.msg16097#msg16097
date=1410839049]
Haven't we all?
However when a website (who happens to enjoy 501c3 status)
starts off their unbiased story by calling the reporter a
"discredited investigative journalist" without say why they're
"discredited" or to call a source "a disgruntled employee"
without really investigating the story shows them to be the
biased source they really are. Was the employee disgruntled
because they refused to participate in the cleansing of
documents or because they were disciplined. Some on the left
will presume he is just a "disgruntled employee" while ignoring
the fact this has been a 21 year government employee.
[/quote]
Yeah, not my idea of unbiased either.
This is a huge problem in a democracy, the lack of clean,
unbiased news. We don't have that here anywhere. People
believe the propaganda that fits what they already suspect and
vote accordingly. Then wonder why we're in such a mess.
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Re: 13 hours at Benghazi
By: trollslayer Date: September 16, 2014, 7:40 am
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[quote author=rapids_60 link=topic=1216.msg16099#msg16099
date=1410843026]
Yeah, not my idea of unbiased either.
This is a huge problem in a democracy, the lack of clean,
unbiased news. We don't have that here anywhere. People
believe the propaganda that fits what they already suspect and
vote accordingly. Then wonder why we're in such a mess.
[/quote]
Which is why, the days of locking your dial on one station and
gobbling up what they serve are long gone. Fortunately though,
the days of only have three main sources of news are long gone.
OTOH journalists today have grown lazy, reporting what others
have reported and in this case discrediting stories without even
doing any kind of investigation, just discrediting the source.
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