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       #Post#: 15802--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Another journalist beheaded!
       By: FTB41 Date: September 4, 2014, 9:16 am
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       WASHINGTON —Arguing that his motto “Don’t do stupid stuff” is
       not a coherent foreign policy, critics of President Obama are
       pressuring him to do something stupid without further delay.
       Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz) and Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) led
       the attack on Thursday, blasting Obama for failing to craft a
       stupid response to crises in Iraq, Syria, and Ukraine.
       “Instead of reacting to these events with the haste and
       recklessness they deserve, the President has chosen to waste
       valuable time thinking,” McCain said. “This goes against the
       most fundamental principles of American foreign policy.”
       Graham also expressed frustration with the President, telling
       reporters, “The American people are waiting for President Obama
       to do something stupid, but their patience is wearing thin.”
       In his most withering criticism, McCain called Obama’s “stubborn
       refusal to do stupid stuff” a failure of leadership. “If I were
       President, you can bet your bottom dollar I would have done
       plenty of stupid stuff by now,” he said.
       #Post#: 15803--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Another journalist beheaded!
       By: trollslayer Date: September 4, 2014, 9:55 am
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       [quote author=Linda link=topic=1215.msg15794#msg15794
       date=1409796022]
       I can understand what you mean, Trolly. I don't know if it's
       lack of passion or just his manner....
       [/quote]
       You know when Biden sounds more coherent than Obama (follow them
       to the gates of hell) that we're in deep deep trouble.  Obama
       doesn't even seem to understand the threat posed by these
       terrorists so how can you form a plan of any kind?  We've gone
       from the excuse of blaming social media to this.
       [quote]PRESIDENT OBAMA again appeared to dismiss the conflicts
       of the Middle East at a fundraiser Friday, saying the region has
       “been challenging for quite a while” and that “things are much
       less dangerous now than they were 20 years ago, 25 years ago or
       30 years ago.” That may or may not be a valid analytical point,
       but it is not one the U.S. president should be making, as was
       brought vividly home when a video apparently depicting the
       brutal beheading of another American journalist was released
       Tuesday by the Islamic State.
       The barbaric murder of Steven J. Sotloff gave Mr. Obama another
       opportunity to lay out a U.S. strategy for combating an
       organization that is more powerful and more ambitious than
       al-Qaeda before the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. Speaking
       Wednesday in Estonia, the president was slightly stronger and
       clearer than before. But his strategy — he now insists that one
       exists — still has some big holes.[/quote]
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       I find myself asking how many journalists were being beheaded
       "20 years ago, 25 years ago or 30 years ago"?  Or if this is
       even pertinent at this point in time.  Truly a completely
       moronic thing to say!
       #Post#: 15804--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Another journalist beheaded!
       By: trollslayer Date: September 4, 2014, 9:57 am
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       [quote author=FTB41 link=topic=1215.msg15802#msg15802
       date=1409840205]
       WASHINGTON —Arguing that his motto “Don’t do stupid stuff” is
       not a coherent foreign policy, critics of President Obama are
       pressuring him to do something stupid without further delay.
       Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz) and Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) led
       the attack on Thursday, blasting Obama for failing to craft a
       stupid response to crises in Iraq, Syria, and Ukraine.
       “Instead of reacting to these events with the haste and
       recklessness they deserve, the President has chosen to waste
       valuable time thinking,” McCain said. “This goes against the
       most fundamental principles of American foreign policy.”
       Graham also expressed frustration with the President, telling
       reporters, “The American people are waiting for President Obama
       to do something stupid, but their patience is wearing thin.”
       In his most withering criticism, McCain called Obama’s “stubborn
       refusal to do stupid stuff” a failure of leadership. “If I were
       President, you can bet your bottom dollar I would have done
       plenty of stupid stuff by now,” he said.
       [/quote]
       Nice deflection.  I see the point of the quote (and the obvious
       sarcasm) you posted zoomed right over your head.
       I think we can now officially add you to the list of Obama
       zealot's.  :D :D
       #Post#: 15807--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Another journalist beheaded!
       By: Snickers Date: September 4, 2014, 11:56 am
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       [quote author=trollslayer link=topic=1215.msg15803#msg15803
       date=1409842532]
       You know when Biden sounds more coherent than Obama (follow them
       to the gates of hell) that we're in deep deep trouble.  Obama
       doesn't even seem to understand the threat posed by these
       terrorists so how can you form a plan of any kind?  We've gone
       from the excuse of blaming social media to this.
  HTML http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/there-are-big-holes-in-obama-mideast-strategy/2014/09/03/384ac06e-338a-11e4-a723-fa3895a25d02_story.html
       I find myself asking how many journalists were being beheaded
       "20 years ago, 25 years ago or 30 years ago"?  Or if this is
       even pertinent at this point in time.  Truly a completely
       moronic thing to say!
       [/quote]
       If America were to hit with another 9/11 type attack.
       Have to wonder if they would be able to drag Obama off the golf
       course to deal with it?
       #Post#: 15808--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Another journalist beheaded!
       By: Snickers Date: September 4, 2014, 12:00 pm
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       [quote author=rapids_60 link=topic=1215.msg15795#msg15795
       date=1409807582]
       You forgot one:
       Isis taunts Putin and Russia.
  HTML http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/09/03/your-throne-is-being-threatened-by-us-isis-sends-warning-to-russia-putin/
       [/quote]
       Yep  saw that yesterday.
       What was Russia's reply to that threat?
       Was it a ...."we don't know what we're going to do about
       ISIS"?
       Do you think Putin is going to pu$$y foot around with ISIS?
       #Post#: 15810--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Another journalist beheaded!
       By: trollslayer Date: September 4, 2014, 1:04 pm
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       [quote author=Linda link=topic=1215.msg15809#msg15809
       date=1409853722]
       Putin will blast them. He's crazier than ISIS is.
       Home sick today, guys. So make it interesting here....
       [/quote]
       I was thinking the same thing, except Putin would take out a lot
       of innocents and not think twice about it.  That would eliminate
       the problem and maybe a few others.
       #Post#: 15811--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Another journalist beheaded!
       By: rapids_60 Date: September 4, 2014, 7:56 pm
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       [quote author=trollslayer link=topic=1215.msg15810#msg15810
       date=1409853897]
       I was thinking the same thing, except Putin would take out a lot
       of innocents and not think twice about it.  That would eliminate
       the problem and maybe a few others.
       [/quote]
       Yeah, the US still tries to target the bad guys and avoid the
       civilians.  Not always successful, but tries.
       Putin will roll the tanks and flatten everything between
       borders.
       And frankly, I'm going to cheer it on if that happens.   Enough
       already.  Learn to join civilization or leave it permanently.
       #Post#: 16031--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Another journalist beheaded!
       By: trollslayer Date: September 14, 2014, 8:21 am
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       Another beheading. A British aid worker. So, how long before
       something gets done? This reminds me of those intersections
       where people frequently get killed and injured. After each
       accident people wring their hands, local politicians demand
       action and nothing gets done, until the next accident when we
       lather, rinse, repeat.
       #Post#: 16041--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Another journalist beheaded!
       By: Snickers Date: September 14, 2014, 1:23 pm
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       [quote author=trollslayer link=topic=1215.msg16031#msg16031
       date=1410700914]
       Another beheading. A British aid worker. So, how long before
       something gets done? This reminds me of those intersections
       where people frequently get killed and injured. After each
       accident people wring their hands, local politicians demand
       action and nothing gets done, until the next accident when we
       lather, rinse, repeat.
       [/quote]
       Sadly this $hit won't stop until every single Islamic extremism
       in the world is killed.
       #Post#: 16050--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Another journalist beheaded!
       By: rapids_60 Date: September 14, 2014, 1:50 pm
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       [quote author=trollslayer link=topic=1215.msg16031#msg16031
       date=1410700914]
       Another beheading. A British aid worker. So, how long before
       something gets done? This reminds me of those intersections
       where people frequently get killed and injured. After each
       accident people wring their hands, local politicians demand
       action and nothing gets done, until the next accident when we
       lather, rinse, repeat.
       [/quote]
       Kinda like the school shooting problem.   The question is,
       exactly what should be done?
       Should we arm certain groups that we know will turn on us down
       the road?   Put 50K troops the ground and go door to door?    An
       Israeli citizen was beheaded,  Israel isn't clear on what the
       correct response is just yet either.
       It doesn't help that this is a political minefield and the only
       thing more important than clearing out ISIS is getting reelected
       without a quagmire around the neck.
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