URI:
   DIR Return Create A Forum - Home
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       The Forum
  HTML https://thewiforum.createaforum.com
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       *****************************************************
   DIR Return to: Worldwide topics
       *****************************************************
       #Post#: 15656--------------------------------------------------
       The clearest sign of gross incompetence
   DIR By: trollslayer
       Date: August 28, 2014, 9:01 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       When Obama was asked about a plan about ISIL in Syria.
       "We don't have a strategy....yet.
       Talk about freakin clueless.  Then you wonder why the standing
       of the US has fallen amongst the international community?  I'm
       quite honestly ashamed of our leadership after a statement like
       that.
       #Post#: 15658--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The clearest sign of gross incompetence
   DIR By: trollslayer
       Date: August 28, 2014, 9:40 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: Linda link ---
       >
       > He seems to have given up.
       >
       > But in his defense, he's probably tired of fighting. Fighting
       other nations...fighting the people in Washington who have done
       everything in their power to render him an ineffective
       president.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Yup, he's not even phoning it in anymore.  The idea that he
       admits he has no strategy to deal with the most credible threat
       against the US is his own doing.  Nobody elses   The idea that
       he hasn't even thought of a strategy shows he's ineffective.
       Ignoring a problem doesn't make it go away.  Nobody, but himself
       is responsible for this piece of ineptness.  We should all be
       afraid.  Very afraid.
       #Post#: 15661--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The clearest sign of gross incompetence
   DIR By: rapids_60
       Date: August 28, 2014, 11:45 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: trollslayer link ---
       >
       > The idea that he hasn't even thought of a strategy shows he's
       ineffective.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Is that the president's job now, to come up with military
       strategy?  God help us if it is.
       I was pretty sure we had an entire Defense department and
       intelligence community we pay billions of dollars to that should
       be creating strategy to deal with threats to our country.
       They've done nothing?
       #Post#: 15663--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The clearest sign of gross incompetence
   DIR By: trollslayer
       Date: August 29, 2014, 6:40 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: rapids_60 link ---
       >
       > Is that the president's job now, to come up with military
       strategy?  God help us if it is.
       > I was pretty sure we had an entire Defense department and
       intelligence community we pay billions of dollars to that should
       be creating strategy to deal with threats to our country.
       > They've done nothing?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I guess we can blame the Defense Department and intelligence
       community for going into Iraq and not finding WMD's then.  I'm
       not sure what it is about the term "Commander in Chief" you
       don't understand.
       #Post#: 15670--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The clearest sign of gross incompetence
   DIR By: rapids_60
       Date: August 29, 2014, 11:10 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: trollslayer link ---
       >
       > I'm not sure what it is about the term "Commander in Chief"
       you don't understand.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Commander in Chief generally chooses among options presented to
       him by advisors.
       Have any options have been presented to Obama? And what makes
       you think he'd broadcast them worldwide? Some sort of desire to
       give the enemy a heads up?
  HTML http://www.politico.com/story/2014/08/joe-scarborough-isil-obama-plan-110441.html?hp=l8
       --- Quote ---
       > Joe Scarborough on Friday said he believes President Barack
       Obama has a strategy for combating the Islamic State of Iraq and
       the Levant and that his comments at a news conference the day
       before might have been “strategic.”
       > “The president has a plan on ISIS,” the MSNBC host said near
       the open of “Morning Joe,” using the alternative name for ISIL.
       “Does he know exactly where they’re going to bomb in Syria?
       Maybe, maybe not. I suspect they probably do.”
       --- End Quote ---
       #Post#: 15674--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The clearest sign of gross incompetence
   DIR By: trollslayer
       Date: August 30, 2014, 8:05 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: rapids_60 link ---
       >
       > Commander in Chief generally chooses among options presented
       to him by advisors.
       > Have any options have been presented to Obama? And what makes
       you think he'd broadcast them worldwide? Some sort of desire to
       give the enemy a heads up?
       >
       >
  HTML http://www.politico.com/story/2014/08/joe-scarborough-isil-obama-plan-110441.html?hp=l8
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       According to the Pentagon, yes options have been presented and
       they've been out there.  It's common behavior for this president
       to throw a person, or a group of people under the bus for his
       own inabilities.  The amount of time spent on spin control by
       the White House over this is laughable.
       So you think that Joe Scarborough thinks the Presidents plan was
       to look totally inept to fool them?  Well, it worked.  He did.
       Especially when you see David Camerons press conference.  Quite
       a stark difference.
       #Post#: 15701--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The clearest sign of gross incompetence
   DIR By: rapids_60
       Date: August 31, 2014, 1:18 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: trollslayer link ---
       >
       >
       > So you think that Joe Scarborough thinks the Presidents plan
       was to look totally inept to fool them?  Well, it worked.  He
       did.  Especially when you see David Camerons press conference.
       Quite a stark difference.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Each did what they are good at!  :D
       Obama is a rookie at this stuff.  No denying that, it's obvious.
       That doesn't mean your original claim of "no plan" is correct.
       #Post#: 15702--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The clearest sign of gross incompetence
   DIR By: trollslayer
       Date: August 31, 2014, 7:26 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: rapids_60 link ---
       >
       > Each did what they are good at!  :D
       > Obama is a rookie at this stuff.  No denying that, it's
       obvious.  That doesn't mean your original claim of "no plan" is
       correct.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The original claim was "no strategy". It wasn't my claim.
       #Post#: 15720--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The clearest sign of gross incompetence
   DIR By: rapids_60
       Date: August 31, 2014, 1:57 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: trollslayer link ---
       >
       > The original claim was "no strategy". It wasn't my claim.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Semantics.  What's the substantive difference between a strategy
       and a plan?
       #Post#: 15727--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The clearest sign of gross incompetence
   DIR By: trollslayer
       Date: August 31, 2014, 4:12 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: rapids_60 link ---
       >
       > Semantics.  What's the substantive difference between a
       strategy and a plan?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       There is none, but this wasn't my point.
       --- Quote ---
       > That doesn't mean your original claim of "no plan" is correct.
       --- End Quote ---
       The claim of not having a plan and or strategy wasn't mine.  It
       came right from the horses mouth.  The lack of any definite plan
       is obvious, the entire world, including ISIS can see it.  Obama
       reacts, never acts.  It says a lot when the JV team has the
       leader of the greatest military of the world flummoxed.
       *****************************************************
       Page 1 of 2
   DIR Next Page