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Re: No to Aspirus
By: rapids_60 Date: August 20, 2014, 11:42 pm
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[quote author=trollslayer link=topic=1195.msg15486#msg15486
date=1408589281]
Has there been any expansion at all in the area of Peach St
since Aspirus has built the clinic there? (only a clinic mind
you) You don't have to answer. I know the answer already.
[/quote]
Have new businesses moved there *because* of Aspirus? I doubt
it. Except maybe Irv Vollert expanding the funeral home some
years back. :D
People are not going to come from miles around to use the new
Aspirus facility. Marshfield and Wausau are the regional med
centers with level 2 trauma and hundreds of specialty providers
and will remain so.
The new Aspirus facility will divide up Rapids area folks who
don't need to escalate to Marshfield or Wausau. That division
may mean a reduction in services and less investment in
equipment at Riverview.
Never fear though, Aspirus will have the MRI truck here every
third Wednesday. Get in line.
#Post#: 15490--------------------------------------------------
Re: No to Aspirus
By: rapids_60 Date: August 20, 2014, 11:44 pm
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[quote author=Snickers link=topic=1195.msg15480#msg15480
date=1408576870]
I was FORCED to join the union.
[/quote]
No you weren't. You CHOSE to work in a union shop.
That's the Conservative's argument on any facet of employment,
if you don't like what's offered- go elsewhere.
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Re: No to Aspirus
By: rapids_60 Date: August 21, 2014, 1:33 am
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[quote author=Mr.steve link=topic=1195.msg15467#msg15467
date=1408556005]
HIPAA- Health Information Portability Accountability Act
Why was this law enacted? rv sure is not engaging in what the
basic intent of this law was created for. Aspirus, has now
teamed or partnered with some of the biggest healthcare
providers around the state and now your records can ( or will be
very soon) viewed easily by any one of the partners. It will cut
down on paperwork so the patient can be treated in a more timely
manner. rv refuses to even link up with Aspirus for this
purpose.
[/quote]
You may find this interesting. EMR's from one physician's
perspective:
[quote]the industry and physicians have known for years that
EMRs do not improve productivity and that it is highly
questionable that EMRs lead to better patient outcomes. So why
is all this taxpayer debt being accrued by throwing borrowed
money at the healthcare industry to drive EMR adoption, if the
end users are so disenchanted? As Jonathan Bush, the
Founder-CEO of AthenaHealth (a major EMR supplier) famously
said, “It’s healthcare information technology’s version of
cash-for-clunkers,” and because it is actually all about
control.
The goal of EMRs is to wrestle control of healthcare away from
the doctor-patient relationship into the hands of third parties
who can then implement their policies by simply removing a
button or an option in the EMR. If you can’t select a
particular treatment option, for all intents and purposes the
option doesn’t exist or the red tape to choose it is so painful
that there is little incentive to “fight the system.”
For patients, this means that they will only be able to consume
the healthcare that they “qualify” for or be forced to find
another way to obtain the care that they want and need.[/quote]
HTML http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2012/02/emr-dirty-word-doctors.html
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Re: No to Aspirus
By: trollslayer Date: August 21, 2014, 7:48 am
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[quote author=rapids_60 link=topic=1195.msg15493#msg15493
date=1408602807]
You may find this interesting. EMR's from one physician's
perspective:
HTML http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2012/02/emr-dirty-word-doctors.html
[/quote]
One physicians perspective, hardly a majority since this is the
area I work in. I would be interested to see first how old the
author of this article is. Older physician have fought EMR
tooth and nail for obvious reasons. Second, I'd be curious to
see how the author feels about EMR today, since the article is
over two years old and great advances have been made in EMR.
#Post#: 15499--------------------------------------------------
Re: No to Aspirus
By: trollslayer Date: August 21, 2014, 8:01 am
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[quote author=rapids_60 link=topic=1195.msg15489#msg15489
date=1408596167]
Have new businesses moved there *because* of Aspirus? I doubt
it. Except maybe Irv Vollert expanding the funeral home some
years back. :D
People are not going to come from miles around to use the new
Aspirus facility. Marshfield and Wausau are the regional med
centers with level 2 trauma and hundreds of specialty providers
and will remain so.
The new Aspirus facility will divide up Rapids area folks who
don't need to escalate to Marshfield or Wausau. That division
may mean a reduction in services and less investment in
equipment at Riverview.
Never fear though, Aspirus will have the MRI truck here every
third Wednesday. Get in line.
[/quote]
A fair question. Much like asking if stores relocated around a
Wal Mart because the Wal Mart was there or if they would have
relocated there anyway.
Much like Weston, Did Aspirus build a clinic a stones throw away
from the the new hospital because it was being built or because
they were going to relocate there anyway? Did the Americ Inn
and Holiday Inn Express pop up around the hospital about the
same time it was being built just happen to show up there or is
it because the hospital was there. Did the two or three
subdivisions that were built immediately after the hospital was
built show up because of the hospital or would they have sprung
up anyway? Or the bank, or the strip mall or.....
Again, I'm not a fan of Aspirus and I'm not promoting the
building of a new hospital but I'm also not a fan of a city
council who thinks they can pick winners and losers. Especially
when their poorly planned decisions cost the residents they're
supposed to serve tax dollars and jobs. I still don't see the
line of businesses and industries lining up to move into Rapids
do you?. Meanwhile Pizza Ranch opens in Weston on Sept 8 and
I'm really excited!! (Along with a new Pine Ridge restaurant and
a Dunkin Donuts. No Weston isn't growing at all).
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Re: No to Aspirus
By: Snickers Date: August 21, 2014, 8:23 am
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[quote author=rapids_60 link=topic=1195.msg15490#msg15490
date=1408596278]
No you weren't. You CHOSE to work in a union shop.
That's the Conservative's argument on any facet of employment,
if you don't like what's offered- go elsewhere.
[/quote]
The FACTS are Nekoosa Papers hired me. Not a union.
Nekoosa Papers was paying me. Not a union.
I had been working there 3 months before the union came up to me
told me I had to join or I would lose my job.
#Post#: 15510--------------------------------------------------
Re: No to Aspirus
By: luvcats Date: August 21, 2014, 1:14 pm
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[quote author=Snickers link=topic=1195.msg15500#msg15500
date=1408627408]
I had been working there 3 months before the union came up to me
told me I had to join or I would lose my job.
[/quote]
I am dumb. Is that legal?
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Re: No to Aspirus
By: Snickers Date: August 21, 2014, 4:31 pm
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[quote author=luvcats link=topic=1195.msg15510#msg15510
date=1408644853]
I am dumb. Is that legal?
[/quote]
Sadly................... Yes it is
Wisconsin is not a Right to Work State. Not yet anyway.
A union worker in Mich. just file a lawsuit against UAW this
week.
He wants the money back from past dues that union has used for
political donations.
He also wants the right to be able to continue to work while not
being a union member.
#Post#: 15515--------------------------------------------------
Re: No to Aspirus
By: luvcats Date: August 21, 2014, 5:04 pm
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A good friend of mine was a millwright in Nekoosa and
transferred to Port. He had high seniority. When the mill was
shutting down he was unable to transfer back.
#Post#: 15529--------------------------------------------------
Re: No to Aspirus
By: rapids_60 Date: August 21, 2014, 11:54 pm
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[quote author=trollslayer link=topic=1195.msg15499#msg15499
date=1408626113]
A fair question. Much like asking if stores relocated around a
Wal Mart because the Wal Mart was there or if they would have
relocated there anyway.
[/quote]
Heh. Probably 1/2 the spec buildings built in front of Wal Mart
remain unoccupied.
You are forgetting this is RAPIDS. Not Weston. Not Wausau.
Rapids.
We have a nearly-empty mall, empty 8'th st storefronts, empty
buildings surrounding the mall and Wal-Mart and a nearly dead
downtown. One business opens and two more close.
Aspirus gonna fix that? Can I stop laughing yet?
But humor me. Which businesses located to the 54 corridor after
Aspirus moved the Dr's Clinic there?
I can't think of a single one. Some in fact have closed. Was
that due to Aspirus?
But hey...Looks like Riverview is attracting about $20 million
in new investment over across town :
HTML http://www.wisconsinrapidstribune.com/story/news/local/2014/08/13/riverview-ymca-build-million-health-facility/13997163/
[quote]I still don't see the line of businesses and industries
lining up to move into Rapids do you?. Meanwhile Pizza Ranch
opens in Weston on Sept 8 and I'm really excited!! (Along with a
new Pine Ridge restaurant and a Dunkin Donuts. No Weston isn't
growing at all).[/quote]
You won't see business and industry lining up to move into
Rapids after Aspirus builds a hospital either. But they'll
happily move to Plover despite it having no clinic or hospital
at all.
Rapids has it's own set of issues that no Aspirus investment
can solve.
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