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#Post#: 14878--------------------------------------------------
Re: Benghazi! Benghazi! Benghazi! We DEMAND answers!
DIR By: trollslayer
Date: August 5, 2014, 4:19 pm
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--- Quote from: rapids_60 link ---
>
> Largely because it's Libya and never terribly stable, I'm
also sure removing Qadaffi had some part in it.
> But...now that the Republican's original accusations have been
disproven you're just changing the argument.
>
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Changing the argument how? You don't consider bungling wrong
doing? I again ask the question both you and F are running
from. Do you think Obama's hands are clean when it comes to
Benghazi? You seem to think that totally mishandling it then
trying to cover it up isn't wrongdoing? People seem to forget
how this all came down. The President of Libya called this a
terrorist attack right away, before Rice's run on the Sunday
talk shows. Obama knew it wasn't a video before going to the
UN. If you wish to over look the truth, like F and the Obama
administration did that's ok. Another point, one that I find
more disturbing. If there wasn't a "stand down" order given
(there is conflicting evidence about this point I'm not sure
the difference between a "stand down" and "stay in place" order)
that means there weren't any orders given. Our embassy was
attacked and nothing was done about it. No orders were given to
protect it.
#Post#: 14879--------------------------------------------------
Re: Benghazi! Benghazi! Benghazi! We DEMAND answers!
DIR By: FTB41
Date: August 5, 2014, 4:33 pm
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--- Quote from: trollslayer link ---
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> Investigations show Putin is innocent of wrongdoing in the
shoot down of the Malaysian jet as well. So do you wish you
continue to believe that Obama's hands are totally clean in the
Benghazi issue? Sorry, another question you won't
answer,nothing to see here folks just move along> Honest,
intelligent debate from you is a little too much top ask for.
>
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Nope. I can't have an honest discussion with you any more that
I can talk evolution with a creationist. You've already decided
that he's guilty of something...the how keeps shifting. Nothing
anyone says is going to change that.
He's probably guilty of something, somehow, somewhere... but not
what Republicans have been accusing of, and certainly not worthy
of the level of nonsense its been taken to.
#Post#: 14882--------------------------------------------------
Re: Benghazi! Benghazi! Benghazi! We DEMAND answers!
DIR By: trollslayer
Date: August 5, 2014, 4:47 pm
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--- Quote from: FTB41 link ---
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> Nope. I can't have an honest discussion with you any more
that I can talk evolution with a creationist. You've already
decided that he's guilty of something...the how keeps shifting.
Nothing anyone says is going to change that.
>
> He's probably guilty of something, somehow, somewhere... but
not what Republicans have been accusing of, and certainly not
worthy of the level of nonsense its been taken to.
>
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F, instead of deflecting and redirecting, answer a few simple
questions for a change, you mount no defense, provide no
evidence for how you feel and unilaterally declare others wrong.
Sound like a certain caveman or no? You've added nothing to
this thread. You've made no defense to have any "honest
discussion". One more time, do you think Obama's hands are
clean in Benghazi? If so why? So simple a caveman could do it.
#Post#: 14886--------------------------------------------------
Re: Benghazi! Benghazi! Benghazi! We DEMAND answers!
DIR By: trollslayer
Date: August 5, 2014, 5:10 pm
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--- Quote ---
> Nope. I can't have an honest discussion with you any more
that I can talk evolution with a creationist.
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Both a creationist and an evolutionist are capable of having an
honest discussion, unless one is unable to think past their own
talking points. Therein lies your problem.
#Post#: 14887--------------------------------------------------
Re: Benghazi! Benghazi! Benghazi! We DEMAND answers!
DIR By: FTB41
Date: August 5, 2014, 6:11 pm
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--- Quote from: trollslayer link ---
>
> F, instead of deflecting and redirecting, answer a few simple
questions for a change, you mount no defense, provide no
evidence for how you feel and unilaterally declare others wrong.
Sound like a certain caveman or no? You've added nothing to
this thread. You've made no defense to have any "honest
discussion". One more time, do you think Obama's hands are
clean in Benghazi? If so why? So simple a caveman could do it.
>
--- End Quote ---
I answered your question. You just didn't like what I said.
Now you answer this one. Given the recent revelations of the
Republican-led House Intel committee, and with the lack of
conclusive damning evidence from prior Republican investigative
efforts, do you think it time for Republicans to stop wasting
taxpayer money on this witchhunt?
--- Quote from: trollslayer link ---
>
> Both a creationist and an evolutionist are capable of having
an honest discussion, unless one is unable to think past their
own talking points. Therein lies your problem.
>
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Not really. "Talking points" have nothing to do with it.
One argument is based on drawing a conclusions from observable
fact and evidence, the other on using evidence to prove a
preconceived notion based on faith in their mythology. When
its all said and done, it comes down to one side saying "science
suggests this" and the other saying "because its magic and
that's what I believe in". Even if all the arguments made by
the creationist are destroyed, they will remain unconvinced,
because faith defies reason.
That's what we have here. You are convinced that Obama is
somehow guilty of something. Nothing anyone says is going to
change that, even though theories are debunked, accusations
shift and evidence mounts to the contrary, your faith remains
unwavering. Faith defies reason.
#Post#: 14891--------------------------------------------------
Re: Benghazi! Benghazi! Benghazi! We DEMAND answers!
DIR By: rapids_60
Date: August 5, 2014, 10:00 pm
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--- Quote from: trollslayer link ---
>
>
> then trying to cover it up isn't wrongdoing?
>
> Obama knew it wasn't a video before going to the UN.
>
> If there wasn't a "stand down" order given
>
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You keep belching up talking points that the Republicans have
just conceded as false.
Again:
No coverup.
No wrongdoing.
Nobody was intentionally misled.
No stand down/stay in place order.
That is the result of the House intelligence committee's
investigation, the one demanded by REPUBLICANS and led by
REPUBLICANS.
If you wish to keep harping on videos as a deliberate misdirect,
bungling and orders to do nothing even though those things have
just been disproven, by all means continue ;)
This is exactly what Linda and I said would happen when a
Benghazi investigation was called for in the beginning.
If the results didn't please the anti-Obama/anti-Hillary crowd,
they would simply ignore the investigator's conclusions and
carry on like it never happened. ;D
#Post#: 14894--------------------------------------------------
Re: Benghazi! Benghazi! Benghazi! We DEMAND answers!
DIR By: trollslayer
Date: August 5, 2014, 10:44 pm
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> I answered your question. You just didn't like what I said.
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No, you didn't. I challenge you to show where you did. I won't
be holding my breath given your history.
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> Given the recent revelations of the Republican-led House Intel
committee, and with the lack of conclusive damning evidence from
prior Republican investigative efforts, do you think it time for
Republicans to stop wasting taxpayer money on this witchhunt?
--- End Quote ---
Whenever democrat start complaining about spending taxpayer
money, you know they are backed into a corner. No, there are
still too many unanswered questions. Where was Obama during
thiS attack. Nobody knows. Who gave the stay in place order?
Nobody knows. Why was Obama pushing the video narrative ten
days after the attack when it was clearly known that the video
had nothing to do with it. Nobody knows. Why were those who
lived that were involved in this attack forced to sign
nondisclosure agreements? Nobody knows If the most transparent
administration in history would be transparent, there wouldn't
be these unanswered questions.
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> That's what we have here. You are convinced that Obama is
somehow guilty of something. Nothing anyone says is going to
change that, even though theories are debunked,
--- End Quote ---
Obama is guilty of something. There are no theories involved.
You choose to overlook them. Obama is guilty of being part of
the assassination of Qaddafi. Obama is guilty of leaving a
power vacuum in Libya after said assassination. Obama is guilty
of not providing our embassy adequate security despite knowing
that there was indeed a threat against said embassy according to
your own source.
I invite you to how me where anything posted here is wrong
WITHOUT USING CAPS, WITHOUT CALLING ME A HATER/RACIST OR ANY
OTHER DEMOCRATIC TALKING POINTS AND WITHOUT USING THE STRAWMAN
FALLACY.
To do so does nothing but insult the intelligence of the average
reader and does nothing but make you, nobody else look the fool.
#Post#: 14895--------------------------------------------------
Re: Benghazi! Benghazi! Benghazi! We DEMAND answers!
DIR By: trollslayer
Date: August 5, 2014, 11:03 pm
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--- Quote ---
> No stand down/stay in place order.
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There was no stand down order. There was a stay in place order.
Google it. I refuse to provide any further links, just to have
the links discounted and draw attention away from the discussion
at hand. The video was indeed an intentional misdirect, used
almost two week later by Obama at the UN. As I posted earlier
and feel the need to post again. The Libyan president admitted
this was a planned terrorist attack prior to Rice making the
rounds on the Sunday shows. Of course this is the president we
installed and of course he has no idea what was happening in his
own country. He was working against the Obama administration.
Sarcasm in cased you missed it) Despite that, despite that, the
coverup proceeded. The Americans killed in the attack were
killed by precise mortar attacks. Not just "lucky shots" Well
beyond the capabilities of your average video protestor. If you
choose to believe otherwise I'm sure F has a glass or two share
with you. There still remain many many unanswered questions. To
assume otherwise just shows your reluctance to keep an open mind
in this matter.
#Post#: 14897--------------------------------------------------
Re: Benghazi! Benghazi! Benghazi! We DEMAND answers!
DIR By: rapids_60
Date: August 5, 2014, 11:27 pm
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--- Quote from: trollslayer link ---
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> The video was indeed an intentional misdirect,
>
--- End Quote ---
The investigation says otherwise. That point is specifically
addressed. Not much point in going round and round, if you
are just going to disregard their findings.
#Post#: 14900--------------------------------------------------
Re: Benghazi! Benghazi! Benghazi! We DEMAND answers!
DIR By: FTB41
Date: August 6, 2014, 4:59 am
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--- Quote from: trollslayer link ---
>
> No, you didn't. I challenge you to show where you did. I
won't be holding my breath given your history.
> Whenever democrat start complaining about spending taxpayer
money, you know they are backed into a corner. No, there are
still too many unanswered questions. Where was Obama during
thiS attack. Nobody knows. Who gave the stay in place order?
Nobody knows. Why was Obama pushing the video narrative ten
days after the attack when it was clearly known that the video
had nothing to do with it. Nobody knows. Why were those who
lived that were involved in this attack forced to sign
nondisclosure agreements? Nobody knows If the most transparent
administration in history would be transparent, there wouldn't
be these unanswered questions.
> Obama is guilty of something. There are no theories involved.
You choose to overlook them. Obama is guilty of being part of
the assassination of Qaddafi. Obama is guilty of leaving a
power vacuum in Libya after said assassination. Obama is guilty
of not providing our embassy adequate security despite knowing
that there was indeed a threat against said embassy according to
your own source.
> I invite you to how me where anything posted here is wrong
> WITHOUT USING CAPS, WITHOUT CALLING ME A HATER/RACIST OR ANY
OTHER DEMOCRATIC TALKING POINTS AND WITHOUT USING THE STRAWMAN
FALLACY.
> To do so does nothing but insult the intelligence of the
average reader and does nothing but make you, nobody else look
the fool.
>
>
--- End Quote ---
Holy crap dude. You've lost your dang mind over this. I could
continue, but at this point its just embarrassing.
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