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       36 states CRUSH obama!
   DIR By: Mr.steve
       Date: July 22, 2014, 9:44 am
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       #Post#: 14562--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 36 states CRUSH obama!
   DIR By: trollslayer
       Date: July 22, 2014, 10:47 am
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       Considering this guy is a lawyer, he sure has a lousy track
       record in the court system.
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       Re: 36 states CRUSH obama!
   DIR By: FTB41
       Date: July 22, 2014, 12:25 pm
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       Steve needs to learn to read.
       Also celebrating the prospect of many Americans losing their
       insurance or their rates going way up due to some legal
       shenanigans?  Dick move, guys.
       but y'all sorta hate America anyways, don't ya?
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       Re: 36 states CRUSH obama!
   DIR By: Snickers
       Date: July 22, 2014, 12:35 pm
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       --- Quote from: FTB41 link ---
       >
       > Crazy Steve needs to learn to read.
       >
       > Also celebrating the prospect of many Americans losing their
       insurance or their rates going way up due to some legal
       shenanigans?  Dick move, guys.
       > but y'all sorta hate America anyways, don't ya?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I guess you haven't been pay attention.
       Everyone who had insurance now have their premiums going up
       because of this scam.
       Also losing their Doctors and previous coverage.
       Oh but to hell with them..... Right?
       But what aren't they Americans too?
       Been reports coming now that  thousands upon thousands of
       illegal aliens getting free health care through Obama care. But
       hey they aren't Americans.
       #Post#: 14565--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 36 states CRUSH obama!
   DIR By: FTB41
       Date: July 22, 2014, 12:37 pm
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       --- Quote from: trollslayer link ---
       >
       > Considering this guy is a lawyer, he sure has a lousy track
       record in the court system.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Sorta not really the same thing, but okay, lets go with that.
       It's not that bad when you consider that the GOP has been
       throwing everything and the kitchen sink (including a government
       shutdown) at Obamacare and they STILL haven't accomplished their
       goal.  Consider also all the court cases that Repubs have thrown
       against Obamacare, and how almost all of them were shot down.
       To be fair, maybe its not that Obama is all that great, but that
       today's Republicans are just completely inept when it comes to
       getting anything over on Obama.  Given the amount of "scandals"
       they've claimed vs the amount of results they've produced, I'd
       lean towards the latter.
       Especially if you consider that despite their best efforts the
       president does manage to make progress, not to mention being
       elected to a second term even though it was the top goal of
       congressional R's.
       #Post#: 14566--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 36 states CRUSH obama!
   DIR By: FTB41
       Date: July 22, 2014, 12:44 pm
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       --- Quote from: Snickers link ---
       >
       > I guess you haven't been pay attention.
       > Everyone who had insurance now have their premiums going up
       because of this scam.
       > Also losing their Doctors and previous coverage.
       > Oh but to hell with them..... Right?
       > But what aren't they Americans too?
       >
       > Been reports coming now that  thousands upon thousands of
       illegal aliens getting free health care through Obama care. But
       hey they aren't Americans.
       >
       >
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Yes, because screw all the people because relatively minor
       inconveniences of a minority.
       Yeah, there are some serious flaws, but these lawsuits aren't
       about fixing those flaws, its about trying to throw enough
       monkey wrenches into the works so that Republicans can crow
       "see?  its not working! (nevermind that we are the reason its
       not working) its time to repeal and replace go back to the way
       things were!"
       because that was totally working just great.
       #Post#: 14567--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 36 states CRUSH obama!
   DIR By: Mr.steve
       Date: July 22, 2014, 12:57 pm
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       > Yeah, there are some serious flaws, but these lawsuits aren't
       about fixing those flaws, its about trying to throw enough
       monkey wrenches into the works so that Republicans can crow
       "see?  its not working! (nevermind that we are the reason its
       not working) its time to repeal and replace go back to the way
       things were!"
       --- End Quote ---
       Have you been snorting snorfin farts again??????   It can never
       go back to the way it was and to think it can is just a large
       part of stupid on your part.
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       Re: 36 states CRUSH obama!
   DIR By: trollslayer
       Date: July 22, 2014, 1:05 pm
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       > Also celebrating the prospect of many Americans losing their
       insurance or their rates going way up due to some legal
       shenanigans?
       --- End Quote ---
       It appears, the only legal shenanigans going on here are by the
       Obama administration.  The court ruled against him.  What's
       shenanigans is trying to have people received supplements that
       aren't supposed to be.
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       > Yes, because screw all the people because relatively minor
       inconveniences of a minority.
       --- End Quote ---
       What Snickers has described here is more of these "legal
       shenanigans" you talk about.  Illegal aliens aren't to be
       covered by the law.  Being a minority has nothing to do with it.
       Being an illegal alien has everything to do with it.
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       > Yeah, there are some serious flaws, but these lawsuits aren't
       about fixing those flaws, its about trying to throw enough
       monkey wrenches into the works so that Republicans can crow
       "see?  its not working!
       --- End Quote ---
       It's not working, at least it's not working the way it was
       promised to work.  Health care costs are not coming down.  The
       price of insurance isn't decreasing.  You can't keep your
       doctor, insurance, hospital period.  A minor inconvenient fact
       you keep overlooking.
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       > To be fair, maybe its not that Obama is all that great, but
       that today's Republicans are just completely inept when it comes
       to getting anything over on Obama.
       --- End Quote ---
       The many court cases the Obama administration has lost kinda
       emphasizes the ineptitude of the Obama administration and the
       current DOJ.  Also you're right.  Given the current state of
       affairs around the world and Obama's lack of response to any of
       it has not only shown that he "isn't all that great, but he's
       already checked out and has accepted his role of "lame duck".
       As far as Republicans being inept, "to be fair" any prosecutor
       will tell you, it's hard to put any kind of case together when
       evidence disappears, is missing, is covered up, or your witness
       pleads the 5th, or when you can claim executive privilege.
       #Post#: 14569--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 36 states CRUSH obama!
   DIR By: trollslayer
       Date: July 22, 2014, 1:17 pm
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       --- Quote from: Mr.steve link ---
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       > Have you been snorting snorfin farts again??????   It can
       never go back to the way it was and to think it can is just a
       large part of stupid on your part.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       It's just the infamous straw man.  F's number one defense.
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       Re: 36 states CRUSH obama!
   DIR By: FTB41
       Date: July 22, 2014, 1:56 pm
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       The infamous cry of "straw man", Trolly's number one logical
       fallacy abuse.  Actually, also number one with know-nothings in
       the conservative opinion market machine.
       Whenever I hear you fall back on that (every topic) I just read
       it as "I cannot possibly win using reason, wit or logic so I'm
       going to hide behind a phrase I barely understand and often
       misuse."
       Carry on, Scarecrow.
       So, now that the gangs all here, why not explain to me how that
       ruling is in any way a good thing for the American people in the
       36 states that would have been CRUSHed by massive rate hikes?
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