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       #Post#: 13810--------------------------------------------------
       Going Rogue
   DIR By: Mr.steve
       Date: June 9, 2014, 5:31 pm
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  HTML http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U0OqJqNbbs
  HTML http://foxnewsinsider.com/2014/06/09/video-frustrated-farmers-parody-let-it-go-protest-epa-regulations
       #Post#: 13811--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Going Rogue
   DIR By: FTB41
       Date: June 9, 2014, 6:49 pm
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       1: how is this "going rouge"?  unless you mean going off the
       deep end like Sister Sarah patron saint of crazy.
       2:  "Frustrated farmers" isn't entirely accurate.  They're about
       as much farmers as the bankers and stockholders that get the
       farm subsidies are. Farm Bureau is a Big Ag lobbying group.
       They don't represent family farms, they mostly represent big
       polluters and chemical heavy monocroppers.  I'm sure they don't
       want to have to be responsible for their run offs polluting
       public waters.   Like most industry bemoaning any kind of
       environmental regulation, its really just them wanting to avoid
       off any responsibility for their messes and blind oversight.
       I'm not saying this bill is good or bad, I'm saying examine the
       source of this particular bit of PR for what it is...a major big
       ag lobby trying to sway public opinion on a set of regulations.
       Then read the bill and figure it out for yourself for once,
       rather than have it handed to you.
       #Post#: 13813--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Going Rogue
   DIR By: trollslayer
       Date: June 9, 2014, 9:08 pm
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       > They're about as much farmers as the bankers and stockholders
       that get the farm subsidies are.
       --- End Quote ---
       Instead of just parroting a liberal bull$hit statement like
       this, please show where this family aren't farmers.  I won't be
       holding my breath.
       #Post#: 13818--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Going Rogue
   DIR By: rapids_60
       Date: June 9, 2014, 11:21 pm
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       Story from a non-Fox source:
  HTML http://brownfieldagnews.com/2014/05/27/missouri-farm-bureau-video-pokes-fun-epa-proposal/
       I gotta read the bill before calling this one.  There will
       always be someone that doesn't like, or is negatively impacted
       by new rules.  That doesn't mean the positive outcome doesn't
       outweigh the negative.  Or it might be unnecessary federal
       overreach, it's hard to make a judgment based on just one side's
       opinion.
       And that phrase "going rogue" needs to go away.   It has a
       pretty nasty slang meaning.
  HTML http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Going+rogue
       #Post#: 13819--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Going Rogue
   DIR By: FTB41
       Date: June 10, 2014, 4:47 am
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       --- Quote from: trollslayer link ---
       >
       > Instead of just parroting a liberal bull$hit statement like
       this, please show where this family aren't farmers.  I won't be
       holding my breath.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Oh sorry, I forget that family farms come equipped with
       professional cameramen and editing.
       This was produced by the Missouri Farm Bureau.
       #Post#: 13824--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Going Rogue
   DIR By: Mr.steve
       Date: June 10, 2014, 9:00 am
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       > And that phrase "going rogue" needs to go away.   It has a
       pretty nasty slang meaning.
       >
  HTML http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Going+rogue
       --- End Quote ---
       Are you having an F moment here Rapids?  How else would you
       describe what the epa is, has been and planning on doing to us
       citizens?  ;)
       #Post#: 13827--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Going Rogue
   DIR By: trollslayer
       Date: June 10, 2014, 10:54 am
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       --- Quote from: FTB41 link ---
       >
       > Oh sorry, I forget that family farms come equipped with
       professional cameramen and editing.
       > This was produced by the Missouri Farm Bureau.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       F, one more time, read it slowly, please back up your statement
       and show where this family aren't farmers.  To date you've
       failed.  Participating in a commercial doesn't mean they aren't
       farmers.  Haven't you ever seen a commercial with farmers in it
       before?   You aren't real good at this are you?
       #Post#: 13829--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Going Rogue
   DIR By: 2fat
       Date: June 10, 2014, 11:30 am
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       Most people think a family farm means a small operation(dairy in
       Wisc) where everyone works together 24/7 to make a living---a
       marginal operation at best anymore--familys incorporate for lots
       of reasons, you are lucky if your children want to work as hard
       as you for a small(relative to hours) financial return and large
       risks--minimizing the risk by maximizing the area it is spread
       upon is a good idea---
       #Post#: 13830--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Going Rogue
   DIR By: FTB41
       Date: June 10, 2014, 12:16 pm
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       --- Quote from: trollslayer link ---
       >
       > F, one more time, read it slowly, please back up your
       statement and show where this family aren't farmers.  To date
       you've failed.  Participating in a commercial doesn't mean they
       aren't farmers.  Haven't you ever seen a commercial with farmers
       in it before?   You aren't real good at this are you?
       >
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       Trolly, you being an expert at strawmen should be the last to
       try and use one.
       Nobody f*cking cares if they are farmers or not...maybe they
       are, maybe they aren't.  Its not the point.  Do you have kittens
       worrying about if the people in the McDonalds commercials
       actually flip burgers or not?
       This is a video produced for and by the Farm Bureau of
       Missouri, a Big Ag lobbying group with a sizable share of the
       insurance industry.  Or did you really think this polished video
       was shot by maw and paw an ye olde camcorder and seeded and
       promotes on the socials by cousin Cletus?
       Go play your weak semantics games with Snickers.  I'm not
       interested.
       #Post#: 13835--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Going Rogue
   DIR By: trollslayer
       Date: June 10, 2014, 12:40 pm
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       --- Quote from: FTB41 link ---
       >
       > 2:  "Frustrated farmers" isn't entirely accurate.  They're
       about as much farmers as the bankers and stockholders that get
       the farm subsidies are.
       >
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I get it now, when asked to provide some kind of backup for your
       response the best you got is,
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       > Nobody f*cking cares if they are farmers or not...maybe they
       are, maybe they aren't.
       --- End Quote ---
       Nobody f*cking  cares what you post cause it's just made up
       trollsh1t  Thanks for the clarification.
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