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       #Post#: 13549--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jaw dropping incompetence"
       By: trollslayer Date: May 30, 2014, 1:05 pm
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       [quote author=FTB41 link=topic=1076.msg13530#msg13530
       date=1401459577]
       Its in your head.  One of the few attacks that the Repugs threw
       at Hillary that actual gained traction is about questioning her
       health.  Benghazi only works with the shrinking GOP base.
       Still, it wouldn't surprise me (or disappoint me) if she didn't
       run.  If there is one thing Democrats excel at, its taking a
       dive when the fight was theirs to win.
       [/quote]
       You'll have to explain what fight they're winning?  I don't
       really see it.
       #Post#: 13550--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jaw dropping incompetence"
       By: FTB41 Date: May 30, 2014, 1:07 pm
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       So basically everything that isn't FOX and clones is the "Obama
       propaganda machine"?  Riiiight.  Those darned liberals with
       their factual reporting.
       And yeah, blue Texas could happen.  Its really just a matter of
       time.  The Hispanic voting block ( you know, the ones you assume
       are illegals in your totally-not-racist way) is growing while
       the white-and-scared block is shrinking.   Not to mention that
       Tea Party stupidity is souring the Republican brand to the point
       REAL conservatives won't vote Republican any more.
       So unless the GOP somehow manages to stop offending women and
       minorities, its really just a matter of time.
       #Post#: 13552--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jaw dropping incompetence"
       By: trollslayer Date: May 30, 2014, 1:10 pm
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       [quote author=FTB41 link=topic=1076.msg13550#msg13550
       date=1401473233]
       So basically everything that isn't FOX and clones is the "Obama
       propaganda machine"?  Riiiight.  Those darned liberals with
       their factual reporting.
       And yeah, blue Texas could happen.  Its really just a matter of
       time.  The Hispanic voting block ( you know, the ones you assume
       are illegals in your totally-not-racist way) is growing while
       the white-and-scared block is shrinking.   Not to mention that
       Tea Party stupidity is souring the Republican brand to the point
       REAL conservatives won't vote Republican any more.
       So unless the GOP somehow manages to stop offending women and
       minorities, its really just a matter of time.
       [/quote]
       F, who is the only one mentioning Fox in this discussion?
       Who mentioned anything about Hispanics all being illegal?
       Being against illegals getting amnesty makes one racist.  Only
       in an F world.  Typical liberal talking point.  Much like the
       "cancer of inequality".
       If it wasn't for the straw man argument, you wouldn't have an
       argument at all.
       #Post#: 13553--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jaw dropping incompetence"
       By: FTB41 Date: May 30, 2014, 1:11 pm
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       [quote author=trollslayer link=topic=1076.msg13549#msg13549
       date=1401473150]
       You'll have to explain what fight they're winning?  I don't
       really see it.
       [/quote]
       Polls and projections.  Yeah, its too far ahead to make any real
       speculation, but right now Clinton seems unbeatable.
       Objectively, Clinton does better in any hypothetical matchup
       with any GOP potential candidate...not that they really have
       much to work with.   Heck, they're looking to bring Jeb Bush in.
       How desperate do you have to be to look to a Bush as your party
       hero?
       #Post#: 13555--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jaw dropping incompetence"
       By: trollslayer Date: May 30, 2014, 1:15 pm
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       [quote author=FTB41 link=topic=1076.msg13553#msg13553
       date=1401473494]
       Polls and projections.  Yeah, its too far ahead to make any real
       speculation, but right now Clinton seems unbeatable.
       Objectively, Clinton does better in any hypothetical matchup
       with any GOP potential candidate...not that they really have
       much to work with.   Heck, they're looking to bring Jeb Bush in.
       How desperate do you have to be to look to a Bush as your party
       hero?
       [/quote]
       Of course she does.  That's because there isn't anyone mounting
       any serious challenge against her.  Who is her competition?
       Biden?  Wannabe Chieftess  Warren?  Meanwhile there isn't one
       single republican candidate.  The votes are split between at
       least a half a dozen.
       #Post#: 13556--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jaw dropping incompetence"
       By: FTB41 Date: May 30, 2014, 1:20 pm
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       Depends on the poll I guess, the ones I looked at were Hilary vs
       X, rather than a split like you said.  Like I said, its too far
       ahead to make any serious speculation, but its obviously enough
       to make the GOP nervous, otherwise they wouldn't be trying so
       hard to shoot her down even though she doesn't presently hold
       any office.
       #Post#: 13557--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jaw dropping incompetence"
       By: trollslayer Date: May 30, 2014, 1:27 pm
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       [quote author=FTB41 link=topic=1076.msg13556#msg13556
       date=1401474017]
       Depends on the poll I guess, the ones I looked at were Hilary vs
       X, rather than a split like you said.  Like I said, its too far
       ahead to make any serious speculation, but its obviously enough
       to make the GOP nervous, otherwise they wouldn't be trying so
       hard to shoot her down even though she doesn't presently hold
       any office.
       [/quote]
       Holding her accountable for the Benghazi blunder  is shooting
       her down.  OK
       Bringing up her age much like was done by democrats with Reagen
       and McCain is shooting her down.  Whatever you say.  It's called
       politics as usual.  Both sides engage in it.  Sorry you can't
       see that.
       In one post you say she leads in presidential polling, in the
       next try to say "even though she doesn't hold any office"   ;D
       ;D ;D ;D ;D"
       #Post#: 13583--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jaw dropping incompetence"
       By: rapids_60 Date: May 30, 2014, 10:34 pm
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       [quote author=trollslayer link=topic=1076.msg13555#msg13555
       date=1401473707]
       Meanwhile there isn't one single republican candidate.  The
       votes are split between at least a half a dozen.
       [/quote]
       Thing is, she still wins in head to head polls.
       Walker Vs Hillary, Hillary wins.
       Ryan Vs. Hillary, Hillary wins.
       Perry Vs. Hillary. Hillary wins.
       Christie Vs, Hillary, Hillary wins.
       Bush V. Hillary, Hillary wins.
       That's how the averaged polls over at Politico stack up and it
       probably does scare the bejezus out of the Republicans.   I
       suspect we'll be rehashing the whole Whitewater/ Vince Foster
       thing again in a few months.
       FTB, I don't base my feeling that Hillary has health issues on
       anything anyone said.   Rove?  C'mon now.....
       It's based on watching her.  She's slowed down.  She doesn't
       appear as quick on her feet and her speech is different.  Slower
       and a bit more deliberate.     And again, I may be way off base,
       it's just an observation and a feeling.
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