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       "Pro Business" states have worse economic growth...
   DIR By: rapids_60
       Date: May 8, 2014, 12:13 am
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  HTML http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-surprise-probusiness-20140506-column.html
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       > when Chinn mapped the ALEC rankings for all 50 states against
       their economic growth, he found that, if anything, a higher
       index score correlates with a worse economic performance.
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       Which explains why non-business friendly California and
       Minnesota have gone from being tied with Wisconsin  (pre-Walker)
       to  Kicking "Open for Business" Wisconsin's behind.
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       Re: "Pro Business" states have worse economic
       growth...
   DIR By: FTB41
       Date: May 8, 2014, 5:44 pm
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       No surprise at all.
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       Re: "Pro Business" states have worse economic
       growth...
   DIR By: trollslayer
       Date: May 8, 2014, 8:19 pm
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       ~chuckling~ I'll leave it to those most close minded to jump to
       make an assumption a fact.  You must have missed the "if
       anything"
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       > he found that, if anything, a higher index score correlates
       with a worse economic performance.
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       There is no iron clad correlation other than the one you just
       made.  Some people just seem to have inherited that dominant
       gullible gene.
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       Re: "Pro Business" states have worse economic
       growth...
   DIR By: FTB41
       Date: May 9, 2014, 4:57 am
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       Okay then, go ahead and name a city where the GOP's trickle down
       economics have worked to build the economy.
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       Re: "Pro Business" states have worse economic
       growth...
   DIR By: trollslayer
       Date: May 9, 2014, 6:59 am
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       > Okay then, go ahead and name a city where the GOP's trickle
       down economics have worked to build the economy.
       >
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       That would call for me to jump to the same phony conclusions
       that you just did.  If I wanted to engage in your typical
       partisan pettiness I could say that this article shoots your
       argument in the ass.
       But then again, in your next post you'll state the source isn't
       good enough, or the author, or the poster or........
  HTML https://www.ijreview.com/2013/07/64934-republican-governed-states-crush-democrats-in-economic-competitiveness-rankings/
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       Re: "Pro Business" states have worse economic
       growth...
   DIR By: rapids_60
       Date: May 9, 2014, 4:18 pm
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       Yay, we're beating  some (not all) Dem states in some
       theoretical "Economic Competitiveness Rankings".   Which means
       absolutely nothing in terms of real jobs created, real economies
       or actual business growth.
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       > The study gave scores to weighted categories (from most
       important to least important): cost of doing business, economy,
       infrastructure, workforce, quality of life, technology and
       innovation, business friendliness, education, cost of living,
       access to capital.
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       This is no more meaningful than the ALEC rankings, see post #1.
       And in your article we're STILL #22, beaten by 6 Dem states
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       Re: "Pro Business" states have worse economic
       growth...
   DIR By: trollslayer
       Date: May 9, 2014, 8:52 pm
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       > Yay, we're beating  some (not all) Dem states in some
       theoretical "Economic Competitiveness Rankings".   Which means
       absolutely nothing in terms of real jobs created, real economies
       or actual business growth.
       >
       > This is no more meaningful than the ALEC rankings, see post
       #1.   And in your article we're STILL #22, beaten by 6 Dem
       states
       >
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       That's exactly the point I was trying to make.  It's all
       theoretical.  There are other factors that need to be taken into
       consideration as well.  It's a little hard when unions fight new
       job creation at every turn and democrats fight new jobs in the
       state eg mines.
       I still do find myself chuckling however.  When people start
       talking about unemployment and how Obama claimed unemployment
       was supposed to be so much lower than it is now people will
       quickly reply government doesn't create jobs.  When talking
       about Walkers inability to provide the jobs he's promised it's
       all his fault.
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       Re: "Pro Business" states have worse economic
       growth...
   DIR By: rapids_60
       Date: May 9, 2014, 9:31 pm
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       --- Quote from: trollslayer link ---
       >
       > When people start talking about unemployment and how Obama
       claimed unemployment was supposed to be so much lower than it is
       now people will quickly reply government doesn't create jobs.
       When talking about Walkers inability to provide the jobs he's
       promised it's all his fault.
       >
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       Yeah, pointing the finger while giving your own guy a pass is
       pretty much SOP these days.   Same folks who were making hay of
       Obama's unemployment/stimulus promises will probably give Walker
       a pass on the 200K jobs promise.  And I'll be the first to admit
       that's a two way street, not restricted to either group.
       It annoys me because if people dropped the partisan nonsense and
       looked at ideas objectively we might actually get somewhere.
       Instead we cheer on and double down on failed ideas because not
       doing so would be an admission the other guy was right.  Heaven
       forbid.
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