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God's Law of Repentance & Forgiveness
By: Veronica Date: May 11, 2014, 2:10 pm
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When I first learned about this Law two years ago I was
overwhelmed with gratitude for God's Grace and Mercy.
Right now I feel repentance is much easier than forgiveness. I
am still defiant and justifying self-punishment regarding two
abortions that I committed four years ago now.
I really don't like considering how I can forgive myself- the
Anger distracts me from feeling any compassion towards myself.
Anyway- I just wanted to engage on this topic today- I want to
bring my desire into harmony with Forgiveness
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Re: God's Law of Repentance & Forgiveness
By: pierrejoseph Date: May 11, 2014, 10:29 pm
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I would probably concentrate myself on growing my desire to
repent rather than forgive myself for what I did and I will
eventually feel God forgiveness and grace. It all comes back to
our desire to repent, and if we are not engaging the process of
repentance yet, and use self punishement as an addiction not to
feel our pain and the pain we created in others, it is because
we have fears in the way. I would pray to feel my fears blocking
me to repent. This is what I concentrate on, feeling my blocks/
generally fears or shame to the process wether it is repentance,
forgiveness ou receiving God's Love. When we feel our blocks,
the fears are released and the pure desire for the process grows
and the process becomes easier, more natural rather than
manufactured and forced which is exhausting. I hope it helps.
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Re: God's Law of Repentance & Forgiveness
By: Veronica Date: May 12, 2014, 1:23 pm
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Yes- the refocus on the desire does help. I feel my desire to
repent has been strong- because I have been experiencing
repentance consistently- and it's gotten to the point where I
have to go to the "next level" and I can't do that until I stop
adding additional pain by way of self-punishment.
I was definitely avoiding feeling the overwhelming love and
forgiveness that I have ALREADY received- my soul kept saying;
but HOW can you forgive that? I don't deserve that. I was able
to recognize that I have fear in my soul as to how feeling that
overwhelming forgiveness and love will change me, or
acknowledging how it has already changed me, staying in
self-punishment because I've been afraid of that change that is
already underway.
Yesterday after I posted this I was in prayer and I was able to
meet a new spirit friend who can help me get through my block to
forgiveness. I am unable to put into words the love I feel and
the hope I feel from our brief interaction.
My desire to repent & the actual action of repentance has
revealed a lot of new desires and it is a beautiful journey- As
I feel the wall to forgiveness breaking down I can see a little
more clearly how those desires might be acted upon.
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Re: God's Law of Repentance & Forgiveness
By: pierrejoseph Date: May 12, 2014, 10:13 pm
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[quote author=Veronica link=topic=48.msg179#msg179
date=1399919000]
Yes- the refocus on the desire does help. I feel my desire to
repent has been strong- because I have been experiencing
repentance consistently- and it's gotten to the point where I
have to go to the "next level" and I can't do that until I stop
adding additional pain by way of self-punishment.
[/quote]
Self punishement is our desire to avoid feeling the pain of what
we did wrong to others or anything else wrong in our parent's
eyes (wether it is in error or not) that we have learned in our
childhood to avoid feeling punishment from our parents, here
from your aborted babies, while repentance is the desire to feel
all the pain we did to others. There are 2 opposite desires, one
is resisting and that creates more pain and the other is
surendering to our pain and it releases it. So, you cannot
desire to repent and self punish on the same subject at the same
time. In other words, your desire to self punish is a block to
your desire to repent, so I would concentrate on praying to feel
the childhood fear and grief behind this addiction. When that
will be felt and released, there will be only your desire to
repent left.
Forgiveness is the process of feeling all the pain OTHERS did to
us. You don't need to forgive yourself for the abortions, you
need first to feel that the damages are repaired and "that all
is well" with your aborted babies and then you will
automatically forgive yourself at the completion of the
repentance process. This is beautiful if you think about it.
This process is amazing.
[quote author=Veronica link=topic=48.msg179#msg179
date=1399919000]
I was definitely avoiding feeling the overwhelming love and
forgiveness that I have ALREADY received- my soul kept saying;
but HOW can you forgive that? I don't deserve that.
[/quote]
God has already forgiven us for what we did wrong to others or
ourselves but we will feel it only at the completion of the
processus of repentance. As long as repentance is not fully
engaged and processed to the end, we won't feel His forgiveness.
Veronica I am not sure I help here and not sure I understand all
what you shared (next level, what is that?) and maybe you
already know what I shared but I felt that what you were sharing
was somehow in error and that it could keep you stuck, so I hope
this will help. I know how beautiful is the process of
repentance and also too well how painful it is to resist and to
self punish. I am certainly not an expert but each time I have
felt a repentant spirit about anything, I felt God's Love of an
extreme intensity I have never felt in another moment. Like if
God is so proud of me and is 100% with me, and my guides too. It
is worth. I am very passionate about it, about humility and
repentance.
May you spirit friend be a very loving being and he will help
you best.
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Re: God's Law of Repentance & Forgiveness
By: Veronica Date: May 14, 2014, 8:55 pm
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Thank you very much Pierre,
I've been very confronted by a few bits of what you present to
me- and I'm grateful for it.
Very helpful as I am clarifying and paying close attention to
this right now.
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Re: God's Law of Repentance & Forgiveness
By: Victoria7 Date: May 15, 2014, 5:06 am
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Hey Veronica, I saw a really moving bit in the following video (
sorry can't remeber when). The lady in the wheelchair feels a
male spirit is prjecting at her. Jesus tell her he feels that
she knows who it is; the lady crys.
It was the son she aborted who who sending her all his love to
her. Made me cry! xx
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Re: God's Law of Repentance & Forgiveness
By: Veronica Date: May 15, 2014, 2:17 pm
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Thank you Victoria, I can relate to that moment.
Over the last 24 hours I am coming to see more clearly how much
I have chosen self-punishment in my life because of my childhood
experiences. I "rebelled" and became and artist- free to
express what I want, when I want...or so I thought....I have
kept myself confined in so many ways that I am just accepting
and understanding now.
When I look at the last two years I see a handful of periods of
2-5 weeks of real repentance- for all sorts of unloving stuff-
but related in intimate ways to the action of having an
abortion.
Right now it feels like EVERYTHING in my life is intimately
related to this group of emotions and when I break down the wall
of avoidance that is self-punishment I will be able to feel
through a great deal of change.
I just watched the latest Through the Mists video and Mary
stated something about Repentance that was very important for me
to hear, relating it to a consistent state of humility and
desire to become more loving. A desire to love so great it will
help see me through all the muck on the way.
at 54:12 Mary Says; "We've often said that the core of this path
is repentance and forgiveness. That's what we are doing when we
are dealing with our emotions and to explore why we don't want
to repent and why we don't want to forgive is really important
work."
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