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       #Post#: 727--------------------------------------------------
       something that was never addressed...
   DIR By: DJChrisX
       Date: July 15, 2013, 11:00 am
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       "Stay Tuned at the end of the Webcast for a HUGE Announcement!"
       what was the announcement going to be?
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       Re: something that was never addressed...
   DIR By: Babs
       Date: July 15, 2013, 5:52 pm
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       I was curious about this too. I think we all just assumed it was
       going to be a KOT-related announcement. But what if it wasn't?
       #Post#: 737--------------------------------------------------
       Re: something that was never addressed...
   DIR By: notevevenintheface
       Date: July 15, 2013, 10:45 pm
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       Well the following day all the shows were canceled so that
       turned out to be a huge announcement.
       #Post#: 746--------------------------------------------------
       Re: something that was never addressed...
   DIR By: canenigma
       Date: July 16, 2013, 1:48 pm
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       I remember in the weeks following the ippv, this is the one
       thing that bothered me more than anything. Ok so you know you
       are going to go dark and you are either legit shutting things
       down or you are running a story where you are shutting down. Why
       promise a big announcement you never intend on sharing? Why keep
       the Sept date hidden up until just before the ippv, show it,
       take it down again, then put it back up? It was the ultimate
       tease and a bit of a jerk move. Was Chikara that desperate for a
       few last minute ippv buys that they added a little promise such
       as the announcement? I don't think so because it has become
       somewhat of an expected thing for them to do at their bigger
       shows especially the ippvs. They always make a big announcement.
       It wasn't Sabato's appearance because he showed up unannounced.
       The other thing that really upset me is what seems like the
       "fake tour dates". The most troublesome being SD/ND weekend.
       Again, seems like a cruel joke aimed at a potential new market.
       You never intend to keep those dates so why announce them? Why
       not make that weekend Reading? Reading crowd would be more
       forgiving since they get Chikara all the time. And of coarse we
       have California. Now if I lived as far as CA,ND, SD, or MN and I
       found out that an East coast company was coming over for a visit
       only to later find out its' cancelled, I would be crushed. Again
       it seems like a cruel joke. Reseda will be ok. they have PWG but
       the rest I Think will have a bad taste in their mouth as a
       result
       #Post#: 747--------------------------------------------------
       Re: something that was never addressed...
   DIR By: mervynpumpkinhead
       Date: July 16, 2013, 5:04 pm
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       I while clearing out some papers from my folders I found the
       envelope that I had received when I got my TWGP tickets.  Inside
       was a little promo card that listed where Chikara was going to
       be.....up until June 1st.  Nothing after that date.  I didn't
       think anything of it until now.
       #Post#: 749--------------------------------------------------
       Re: something that was never addressed...
   DIR By: canenigma
       Date: July 16, 2013, 10:09 pm
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       Actually that is not unusual for Chikara. I have been to a
       number of shows and they have in the past many times handed out
       promo cards featuring upcoming events but they only list a few.
       They have done that for the past few years at It's just to
       highlight the dates that are around the corner rather than
       Chikara's entire schedule
       #Post#: 758--------------------------------------------------
       Re: something that was never addressed...
   DIR By: lokithemadtitan
       Date: July 17, 2013, 12:56 am
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       --- Quote from: DJChrisX link ---
       >
       > "Stay Tuned at the end of the Webcast for a HUGE
       Announcement!"
       >
       > what was the announcement going to be?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       i havent seen this brought up since the first couple days after
       the ippv. i would really like to know as well.
       #Post#: 763--------------------------------------------------
       Re: something that was never addressed...
   DIR By: WaltBtb
       Date: July 17, 2013, 3:59 pm
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       The big announcement was the hoopla at the end and the stream
       going dark. "Stay tuned" keeps people watching even if they were
       tired or didn't plan to watch the last match (plenty of people
       bail on a main event for one reason or another, either not
       really caring about or liking the competitors, needing to sleep,
       etc). I think it was simply to make sure that people were
       watching the whole show, and no doubt grab some last minute ippv
       sales.
       I don't know if I ever said anything publicly about the whole
       schedule getting cancelled controversy or not, but here's my
       take:
       When has Chikara ever announced an entire calendar of events at
       the beginning of a season before? When have they ever done this,
       especially in regards to shows in new markets far from home
       base? Never. They aren't reserving arenas or huge venues.
       They're renting halls for their events, and it's very rare that
       any place would take a reservation a year in advance, especially
       from anyone from the other side of the country. You can make
       plans to travel to certain areas, but you don't go public about
       it because there is always a good chance that these plans are
       going to have to get changed leading up to the show when you
       have THAT much time scheduled in advance.
       From the moment they made the announcements that they were
       hitting these locations, I was excited for Chikara but also
       didn't understand how they pulled it off because like I said,
       they aren't a big enough company that needs to reserve places
       that far ahead of time and as someone who has booked events
       myself, I know what a pain in the rump it can be booking a venue
       just a couple of months ahead of time, let alone 8+ months
       (Chris X can vouch for that since he has similar experience).
       Think about it... If you are in charge of renting your venue and
       you are asked to reserve it 8 months in advance for an event
       that may draw up to 100 people but you really have no solid idea
       what the draw will be, do you accept that booking or do you wait
       because there's a good chance that someone else will want to
       book the place for something like a wedding reception or
       whatever and would definitely have more attendees than the small
       wrestling show? Take into consideration that a lot of venues
       sell food and drink and that's how they make a good deal of
       money. It's not wise to lock yourself into a show that won't
       guarantee you as much profit as another event might. I'm not
       saying this is 100% the case or how the places they "booked"
       operate, but most do. So it just felt really strange that
       Chikara somehow made these big plans so far in advance.
       Do I think it sucks for people living in these new markets to be
       excited to finally see Chikara firsthand? Of course. It's a real
       bummer and I know I'd be really ticked off if my hopes were
       built up and then dashed like that. However, I still think it
       was rather silly for people to make vacation plans without
       having secured tickets first.
       So there's that... /blahblahs
       #Post#: 769--------------------------------------------------
       Re: something that was never addressed...
   DIR By: canenigma
       Date: July 18, 2013, 10:50 pm
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       The advanced schedule however did make some sense to me. I knew
       they didn't have anything officially booked because they never
       even announced venues. But there was a growing demand over the
       last couple years for Chikara to start giving more advance
       notice of shows. They even had a poll asking fans how much
       advance notice we wanted. So for me, it made sense. You don't
       need to have your signature on the dotted line. If you know you
       plan to travel to CA and you might be teaming up with another
       promotion like PWG or whatever to help you make it happen then
       you know you will deal with the venue when the time comes. So
       it's not far fetched and I don't think that was a sign we should
       have noticed that something was wrong. It felt like the
       opposite. I was so excited that Chikara was giving us more info
       because it helps someone like me who lives out of state and has
       a job that schedules 6 months in advance. It helped me book
       vacations around Chikara shows. In fact that's how I BARELY made
       it under the wire when I booked my trip for KOT. When KOT was
       announced, I had like a day left to request off for ALL of Fall
       and Winter of 2012. So I was very lucky. I just took it all as a
       good sign that Chikara was alive and healthy.
       Except for of coarse the fact that they booked ND and SD. That
       was weird lol I was jealous. Cleveland had been getting almost
       annual shows (except for 2009). And we didn't get a date.  :(
       but again I just trusted Chikara knew what they were doing.
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