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#Post#: 34--------------------------------------------------
Keep Digging Soldiers - Speculation and Idea Tank
DIR By: DorianGray1984
Date: June 5, 2013, 8:36 am
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I was quite infuriated to see that all my work was deleted on
the previous board. Luckily for me, I kept a backup of my wacky
conspiracy theories. Below is my original post from "A safe
place".
Like most of you (i'm sure), my brain has been working on
overdrive since the end of CHIKARA's "last show". Some things
i've thought recently are pretty far out there and it's real
hard to determine if i'm on the right track with all my posts
getting deleted over on the 101. Also doesn't help that so many
people over there would rather speculate that CHIKARA is
legitimately a closed company, why that is, and how it involves
Mike Quackenbush's personal life
So to you true believers; one question that keeps popping in my
head is why then?
It couldn't have been a coincidence that Titor/Condor/Wink chose
to shut everything down just as Icarus was about to win
CHIKARA's Grand Championship. After all, one would think the
perfect time to go all 'RAWR! DESTROY!' would have been when
Sabato was in the ring trying to expose them. Instead - they
quickly scooted him out of the building and waited for the Main
Event. Furthermore, amidst all of the chaos at the conclusion of
the show, the championship belt was seized and prominently
displayed with respect on the stage. The championship and
perhaps who wears it is intregal to all of this, in my opinion.
Someone didn't want Icarus to win the championship. But why?
What would have happened if Icarus won the title? And how does
it involve Marty Jannetty?
It's my belief that Icarus was supposed to become champion with
Marty Jannetty by his side. That SHOULD be our current reality,
if not for Titor. I think someone from the future influenced
Wink to put a stop to it. Wink's way of doing this was to remove
Marty (Jannetty? McFly?! Reading too far again.....) from the
equation. I believe he had Condor Security take care of that.
Wink probably assumed that little timeline disruption would be
enough to change the outcome of the match. But when it became
obvious Icarus was still going to win even without Marty -
that's when they had to shut it down in the fashion that they
did. And I don't think that's how Titor planned on things going.
They had no choice. I believe Wink being disheveled is evidence
of this. Someone was none too pleased that Wink's idea of simply
taking Marty out of the equation wasn't enough.
We've all seen the picture that Derek Sabato posted.......
[center]
HTML https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BLyaxZiCYAAqn_E.jpg[/center]
As was pointed out, the man on the far right is W. Conrad
Vavasseur. It's been my belief that the 'W' stands for 'Wink'.
Interestingly enough, Mjölnir brought to my attention on another
thread that the business cards Wink was handing out way back
when read "Wink C. Vavasseur". I don't own one of these business
cards and can't find a picture. So if anyone else can confirm
that, it would be great. If true - it would be another big hint
towards my belief that Conrad and Wink are the same person. Too
coincidental not to be a clue (W Conrad - Wink C). A clue that
Conrad isn't Wink's father/uncle/grandfather/etc.; he's Wink
from the future! In my opinion, Wink's future older self has
come back to the present to influence younger Wink to doing
certain things. Sunday was a culmination of that influence. But,
again, why?
Another obvious thing one can take from the picture is the words
"Elohim City". Research on this place (including this link from
Sabato -
HTML http://archive.adl.org/learn/ext_us/elohim.asp)
leads
one to some pretty DARK material about the city's history.
Digging deeper, I went to it's Wikipedia page just to see if I
could find any other hints. One thing jumped out at me as
interesting. If you go to the wiki at -
HTML http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elohim_City
- the fourth sentence
reads: "The community gained national attention for its alleged
ties to members of the Silent Brotherhood in the 1980s". If you
click on the link for this "Silent Brotherhood", it takes you to
their Wikipedia page -
HTML http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silent_Brotherhood
- do that now.
If you just followed the Silent Brotherhood link, you'll see
that they are better known as The Order. Heirgo - Elohim City is
known for it's ties to a group that calls themselves The Order!
This could all be a huge coincidence. But the more I think of
it, the more I could see the GREAT and DEVIOUS Ultramantis Black
being behind it all. One thing I kept thinking about while
looking at the NPA blogs and the Elohim City link Sabato tweeted
is that the material is pretty dark and evil stuff for CHIKARA.
One man has always prided himself on being the most evil mind in
CHIKARA - and that's the malevolent Ultramantis Black. He's been
shaking hands and kissing babies for far too long. And i'd
imagine seeing his Wrestle Factory classmate winning the Grand
Championship before him wouldn't have sat well with future
Mantis. It may have even sent him over the edge.
Another thing I noticed was Titor Conglomerate's portfolio
contains "Rogue Brains" video game development company. They
were the one's that were supposed to make the "Rudos
Ressurection" video game. This game was based on none other than
Ultramantis Black. I hunted down the trailer video and outside
of the initial 15 seconds of BDK references - the rest of it
came across rather interesting in present terms. Talks of taking
CHIKARA over mainly:
[center]
HTML http://youtu.be/1xOeJiNdR4s[/center]
Could future Wink and future Mantis have come together and
conspired to change CHIKARA's history in their image? I'm not
sure, but i'm looking at every angle I can.
Anybody have any other wild ideas/discoveries or want to
piggyback off of these ideas? Wild conspiracy theories are the
key to unlocking the truth.
#Post#: 37--------------------------------------------------
Re: Keep Digging Soldiers - Speculation and Idea Tank
DIR By: dennisfxm
Date: June 5, 2013, 10:16 am
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What about Gavin Loudspeaker? The last we saw, he was still laid
out on the sarcophagus being tended to by Dr. Dave Robel. Do we
know where Dr. Robel's loyalties lie? What if he works with Dr.
Cube? We saw he had the power to convince Jakob to turn on Tim
Donst. Someone with that kind voice can be very useful in this
situation. The 20 July KBB may be very interesting...
Speaking of the Sarcophagus, why was Ophidian wearing Amasis'
mask under his own? Maybe it was Ophidian's decent to madness &
shows his obsession with being (better than) his former partner,
but what if, as W. Conrad might be Wink C. from the future, the
recent Ophidian was just Amasis from another time/space? They
were countering each other's moves, sure they were tag team
partners and know each other very well, but what if they are
actually the same?
#Post#: 38--------------------------------------------------
Re: Keep Digging Soldiers - Speculation and Idea Tank
DIR By: Yata-Garasu
Date: June 5, 2013, 10:47 am
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On the safe place I had a thread about Ophidian and Amasis
I think that when Ophidian revealed he had a Amasis mask
underneath his own it was showing he still had a piece of Amasis
inside of him from when he fused with the souls of Amasis and
Hieracon. Also if you have seen any of his twiter pictures he
has a new mask that has the same color Blue his Osirian Portal
mask did and he has NEVER won it in a match. SO maybe a portal
reform in the future?
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Re: Keep Digging Soldiers - Speculation and Idea Tank
DIR By: Puncyclopedia
Date: June 5, 2013, 11:07 am
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Alternate Amasis theory:
Amasis whose career ended by car accident is Amasis in the
"actual" timeline. Amasis is "supposed" to be retired for good,
no one knows this better than Ophidian, who presumably pretended
to be friends with him up until the official turn.
That's why Ophidian was so confused/horrified, Amasis LITERALLY
wasn't supposed to be able to wrestle again. We have Alternate
Timeline Amasis as the man who came back and beat him.
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Re: Keep Digging Soldiers - Speculation and Idea Tank
DIR By: TeamHate
Date: June 5, 2013, 12:16 pm
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Condor has two interesting tweets:
"That Kevin guy had momentum. Lucky for you and for everyone,
we got him. Now he has to pay."
"And Christopher, seriously, you need to calm down."
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Re: Keep Digging Soldiers - Speculation and Idea Tank
DIR By: DJChrisX
Date: June 5, 2013, 2:38 pm
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--- Quote from: TeamHate link ---
>
> Condor has two interesting tweets:
>
> "That Kevin guy had momentum. Lucky for you and for everyone,
we got him. Now he has to pay."
>
> "And Christopher, seriously, you need to calm down."
>
--- End Quote ---
first one is in reference to the fan who broke the glass door at
the Troc.
Second one? No idea, but I hope they aren't calling ME out, haha
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Re: Keep Digging Soldiers - Speculation and Idea Tank
DIR By: TheWiseMankey
Date: June 5, 2013, 3:26 pm
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This will sound crazy but perhaps Chuck Taylor knows where to
find the HQ of Condor? After all, as he demonstrated on "The
Gentleman's Club," he was able to free The Swamp Monster from
their clutches. Who's to say he can't track them again?
Plus the e-mail that's been given out by Titor could give us
leads. Has anyone attempted to use that e-mail to get answers?
I will say this much, Condor's pretty bold to give out their
number. I made a test call and all I got was a voicemail saying
"Condor. Location. Target." Someone wanna try making themselves
a "target" so action can be taken personally?
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Re: Keep Digging Soldiers - Speculation and Idea Tank
DIR By: vivaeljason
Date: June 5, 2013, 4:11 pm
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--- Quote from: DJChrisX link ---
>
> [quote author=TeamHate link=topic=3.msg42#msg42
date=1370452614]
> Condor has two interesting tweets:
>
> "That Kevin guy had momentum. Lucky for you and for everyone,
we got him. Now he has to pay."
>
> "And Christopher, seriously, you need to calm down."
>
--- End Quote ---
first one is in reference to the fan who broke the glass door at
the Troc.
Second one? No idea, but I hope they aren't calling ME out, haha
[/quote]
It might be. They called me out in a tweet last night (but
deleted it).
Jason [last name], we are following you even if you don't
realize it. Michael, how's Brooke?
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Re: Keep Digging Soldiers - Speculation and Idea Tank
DIR By: DJChrisX
Date: June 5, 2013, 4:20 pm
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I saw that. I know who the Michael they were talking to is as
well. They know we are onto them and are making veiled threats.
So it could very well be me they're talking to there, I've
certainly been very vocal in my dissent and pushed enough
buttons.
At this point I wouldn't be surprised to see Condor agents in a
car following me around while I'm out.
#Post#: 85--------------------------------------------------
Re: Keep Digging Soldiers - Speculation and Idea Tank
DIR By: MVKronus
Date: June 5, 2013, 4:27 pm
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I am waiting for Condor to appear at my door. This is getting
crazy or should I say crazier. Thank God that they haven't
called me out yet.
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