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       Let's Talk Ultramantis
   DIR By: Babs
       Date: October 3, 2013, 7:44 am
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       From Mantis's commentary with Louden/Gavin at Aniversario!
       (2007) during the Kaiju match:
       "One day my friend, one day, Dr. Cube and myself will create one
       conglomerate so evil, so vicious, so devious, that no one will
       be safe."
       We need solid evidence. I have this and circumstantial stuff,
       but I want something concrete.
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       Re: Let's Talk Ultramantis
   DIR By: dfa1985
       Date: October 5, 2013, 2:01 am
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       What's the circumstantial stuff?[/colormeinterested]
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       Re: Let's Talk Ultramantis
   DIR By: Babs
       Date: October 5, 2013, 6:57 am
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       For example, during the main event of Caught in a Spider's Den,
       Mantis randomly mentions liking apples and orchards. I can't
       recall it being something that he mentioned frequently. It
       wasn't something that came up naturally in the conversation
       either. I noted it because the recent talk by Wink about the
       same thing. Caught in a Spider's Den was the first and last Long
       Island show. Wink told me that his mother is from LI. So, Titor
       has connections there.
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       Re: Let's Talk Ultramantis
   DIR By: @ChikarANON
       Date: October 6, 2013, 2:02 am
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       Vince Gilligan said of Breaking Bad that a lot the
       self-referencing within the show ended-up being coincidental.
       It's uncertain that Everything Is Connected so much as Quack is
       just a really good writer and things fell into place just so.
       One overlooked teaching of Watchmen (and of Alan Moore's
       especially after he was hired to write a comic about conspiracy
       theories and found them all to be bunk) is that rarely do things
       go exactly according to plan. Ozymandias would've preferred a
       world where Rorschach lived and Ostermn stuck round as his
       adviser. The real ending of Watchmen is Rorschach's journal
       being published in the New Republic and the world becomes just
       as fucked as it has always been, only this time we don't have
       the deterrent of a Super-Man on our side.
       This is, it should be said, symptomatic of the political climate
       Moore entered his young-adulthood into in Cruel Britannia. It is
       elucidated in a Warren Ellis graphic novel I can't remember the
       name of right now, but a character in it explains that British
       comics and British-born comic writers were darker than their
       American counterparts because, while we suffered through the 80s
       with  President who was a bit doddery and completely
       out-of-touch with popular culture., Britons actually suffered
       through the Thatcher Era where there were open calls for
       concentration camps for homosexuals and banning foreigners from
       entering the country. I don't know if that's exactly true but it
       illustrates that point rather well.
       Either way, Babs, I have carelessly forgotten my original point,
       but I remember I wanted to say that that was a really good find
       for which you should be commended, and at the very least, parted
       me from 10 dollarinos to Smart Mark.
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       Re: Let's Talk Ultramantis
   DIR By: Babs
       Date: October 6, 2013, 8:01 am
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       You're right; it could just be a coincidence. I do have tendency
       to be extremely detail oriented, especially when I'm looking for
       answers.
       
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       Re: Let's Talk Ultramantis
   DIR By: Ohigayna
       Date: April 29, 2015, 12:06 am
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       Oh I could not find something that's too long for it.
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