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       #Post#: 233--------------------------------------------------
       one does NOT always find blame where one finds guilt.
   DIR By: supreme
       Date: November 15, 2017, 5:49 pm
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       In the TROM book we read:
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       > After the loss of a game considered serious, the loser’s only
       > recourse is to blame the victor for overwhelming him. Thus,
       > blame is the assignment of responsibility for the outcome of a
       > game, with an implied wrongness. If the victor accepts this
       > blame - it too is a postulate overwhelm - he feels guilt.
       Thus,
       > blame and guilt are seen as two sides of the same coin: where
       > one is present you will always find the other. They are a
       pair,
       > and are quite inseparable.
       >
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       However, the victor is under no obligation to accept the blame.
       So it is entirely possible for an overwhelmed terminal to blame
       the other terminal but for that terminal to not accept the blame
       and hence not accept the guilt.
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       Re: one does NOT always find blame where one finds guilt.
   DIR By: Pete
       Date: December 29, 2017, 4:53 pm
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       Theoretically you are correct that blaming someone will not
       cause them to feel guilty. However i have never seen a person
       accused of wrongdoing who did not get defensive which indicates
       they felt at least a smidigeon of guilt.
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       Re: one does NOT always find blame where one finds guilt.
   DIR By: David Cooke
       Date: December 29, 2017, 7:25 pm
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       This also relates to what Dennis later said about bondings, and
       double bondings, between concepts. Double bonding is when we
       postulate that A necessarily involves B, and B necessarily
       involves A so we can't have one without the other.
       Beings who were completely free could conceive 'blame' and
       'guilt' as ideas in isolation without reactively associating
       them.
       But we live in a society where compulsive game play is accepted
       as normal, where blame and guilt are tightly double-bonded.
       People habitually use game strategies to make each other guilty.
       The mainstream media is full of stories pointing the finger of
       blame at someone or other, encouraging readers to get worked up
       against these 'guilty' ones.
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