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       Just getting started. Have some thoughts...
   DIR By: Jman99
       Date: September 9, 2017, 10:43 am
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       Hey everyone, not sure how active this forum is anymore, but
       figured I'd post, anyway. Just getting started on TROM, and I
       have to admit, I was hesitant to even buy the book, initially,
       when I found out it had ANYTHING to do with
       Dianetics/Scientology. I was involved with them about 22 or 23
       years ago, briefly, and although auditing does seem to work,
       they were just much too crazy and fanatic to continue with. My
       brother got some definite results with auditing, and I was able
       to audit one of my good friends, with very positive results.
       With me, though, I never got any results. Was never able to
       contact any memories. I've since tried other things, such as
       self-hypnosis, Neuro-Linguistic Programming, meditation, The
       Sedona Method, etc. and nothing seems to work. I think I'm
       living in a dissociated state. I'm wondering if anyone else, in
       a similar situation, has gotten some benefit from TROM? Hoping
       this will help the severe depression/anxiety issues I live with.
       Well, that's about it for now. Fingers crossed =)
       --Jason
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       Re: Just getting started. Have some thoughts...
   DIR By: David Cooke
       Date: September 9, 2017, 8:48 pm
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       Hi Jason, and welcome!
       I agree that scientology auditing works, sometimes. Probably
       when a preclear has a big issue all keyed-in ready to be
       handled. An auditor saved my life, over 40 years ago and that
       win has never dimmed.  But I made the mistake of thinking I
       could go on having similar wins just by buying more auditing. In
       fact, a preclear needs to become self-reliant in handling their
       case as soon as possible, and that's just what TROM offers.
       In scientology you have a D of P and the other terminals
       breathing down your neck to demand that you do the action
       now,now,now.  So whatever benefit there is from the tech, it
       eventually gets suppressed by this denial of self-determinism.
       With TROM you do a session when you want/need one.  Interest is
       one of the best indicators; if a person doen't need a session
       immediately it isn't necessarily out tech or out ethics, maybe
       they're just too keyed-out.  Someone (I forget who) wrote that
       TROM tends to be self-regulating in that once a person has
       exhausted the charge at one level they lose interest in that and
       find themselves running into the next level.
       In my experience, while scientology restimulates the bank, TROM
       takes the charge away gradually and gently until a person no
       longer needs to mock up that bank. Perhaps it's easiest for
       wide-open cases who grew up with vivid mental imagery.  But RI
       should work for anyone, and then Level 2 actually develops the
       ability to see past objects and scenes.
       Personally, I enjoyed Level 3 which rehabbed the state of clear
       achieved in scientology long ago, and had some amazing
       cognitions on Level 4. The biggest cog happened when I had a
       serious problem in life and set out to use TROM to address it.
       Have just started on Level 5, taking it slowly, with more
       cognitions.
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       Re: Just getting started. Have some thoughts...
   DIR By: Jman99
       Date: September 9, 2017, 11:46 pm
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       Hey David! Thanks for the warm welcome. I read through the first
       part of the (first) book yesterday and today, and will start
       into the practical section tomorrow, which I'm excited to dig
       into. I've just lost about all hope that anything will help, but
       I'll keep trying. Have severe depression and anxiety disorder,
       and barely keep my head above water most days. Will let you know
       how it goes, especially if I have questions. Keep your fingers
       crossed =) Sounds like you've had some great results with this.
       I'm hopeful. Talk soon
       --Jason
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       Re: Just getting started. Have some thoughts...
   DIR By: Colleen
       Date: September 29, 2017, 7:05 pm
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       Hello, Jman, welcome to trom. I got onto this board rather late
       to see your messages. Where are you now with trom?  Would you
       like some help over skype or google chat?
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       Re: Just getting started. Have some thoughts...
   DIR By: Jman99
       Date: September 29, 2017, 11:52 pm
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       --- Quote from: Colleen link ---
       >
       > Hello, Jman, welcome to trom. I got onto this board rather
       late to see your messages. Where are you now with trom?  Would
       you like some help over skype or google chat?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Hey Colleen, I am absolutely nowhere with TROM. The book is
       poorly written, and left me with several questions, so I haven't
       been able to proceed. I would certainly be grateful for some
       assistance. I do have Skype. You can PM me on here, and maybe
       figure out a time to chat. Bye for now
       --Jason
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