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       TROM, Scientology, Clearing... could they be obsolete?
   DIR By: Lago
       Date: September 21, 2025, 11:19 am
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       See metodorsame.com (Spanish only)
       They talk about moving with your physical body to go back and
       forth to other realities (parallel universes), acquiring
       abilities that others have had (communicating with animals,
       etc.), bilocation, and other special phenomena. All this within
       just a few months.
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       Re: TROM, Scientology, Clearing... could they be obsolete?
   DIR By: TromFan
       Date: September 21, 2025, 9:20 pm
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       Well, you have to look at the purposes of each of these
       activities, and I will assuming each of them can actually
       produce the intended results.
       Scientology Clearing and TROM exercises aim to rid you of your
       aberrations.
       What you are describing looks like being able to acquire new
       abilities.
       Now if you were talking about a superior method of ridding
       oneself of aberrations, that could possibly make Scientology or
       even TROM obsolete.
       I've been asked this about TROM, whether or not it makes
       Scientology obsolete, and I tell them, in my honest opinion,
       "no".
       TROM may be more advanced, but Scientology lays the foundation
       for TROM, much like mathematics lays the foundation for Algebra.
       And Dennis did not improve upon every aspect of Scientology. He
       handled ONE problem-- being able to go Clear and above working
       by oneself.  He did not improve the study tech, the admin tech,
       or come up with new Training Routines. TROM is almost entirely
       "Negative Gain" (getting rid of the bad) while Scientology has
       Negative and positive gain aspects to it.
       What you are describing seems entirely "positive gain".  Doing
       cool stuff like visiting alternate realities isn't going to rid
       you of your reactive mind.
       On a personal note, things like visiting alternate realities and
       learning new abilities sounds intriguing, if in fact you do
       learn that. As for me, I'm going to rid myself of my bank first
       before I explore doing any kind of magic tricks.
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       Re: TROM, Scientology, Clearing... could they be obsolete?
   DIR By: Lago
       Date: October 19, 2025, 9:25 am
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       Imagine that you can cross, with your physical body and fully
       awake, into a space created for just one minute in your room (or
       on the street, or out in the countryside...). Imagine that you
       have a chronic, real, and constant physical pain. Depending on
       the nature of that new space (a parallel universe), within five
       seconds the pain disappears permanently — gone forever, as long
       as you remain in that universe and not another one. Or maybe you
       simply notice that there’s a hotel on your street that didn’t
       exist minutes before you entered that new reality.
       The gain of becoming aware of our vastness can be so positive
       that it helps eliminate limitations, aberrations, or unwanted
       conditions.
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