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Question about level Two with past persons (2)
DIR By: Ton RB
Date: July 29, 2025, 3:43 pm
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I just re-started with the TROM excersises after I stopped 4
years ago.
I am now doing level 2 in combination with the RI's and that
feels nice.
What I do not understand is how to do the level 2 excersise with
past persons.
Dennis said in the TROM manual:
.......... Now do the exercise with past persons. Select them
one at a time, and complete the exercise with each person.
Continue until no more change occurs with any past
person you care to select .............
Thats all, nothing more.
I read the other topic about this subject (doing level two with
regard to persons) where everyone gives their own good
interpretation of the exercise, because Dennis leaves this open.
Is it correct that as Dennis said nothing more about this, that
you have to follow the same procedure as with an object from a
past scene.
Thus to compare the past person with an object in the present
time.
Because when you compare with a person from your present life
but at time of exercise not physically present, you are actually
comparing two past scenes with each other.
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Re: Question about level Two with past persons (2)
DIR By: TromFan
Date: July 29, 2025, 4:08 pm
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Dennis doesn't say to compare two past people.
Yes, you can compare a past person to an object in present time.
I've done it and got through level two just fine.
I have also gone to public places where people stay still for
awhile (like at a library or cafe) and done the exercise, even
though this sort of violates the distraction-free environment.
I have also compared past people to myself, as I am in present
time.
Who's to say you couldn't just get two friends who look very
different from each other (and thus it's likely one will be
similar to your past person, and one will be different),
preferably one male and one female, and just tell them what you
are going to do and have them be quiet in your session?
But seriously, don't over-complicate this. You compare a past
person to a present time object. I've compared tall people to
tall things in my environment, and short people to short things,
and so on.
If you listen to the tape on level two, Dennis does say that any
two objects in this universe have differences and similarities
to each other, and so it goes for people, and people compared to
objects.
Here is that lecture on this webpage, transcript, mp3 download
and all.
HTML https://sites.google.com/bettertrom.com/bettertrom/trom-level-2-lecture?authuser=0
Tromfan
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Re: Question about level Two with past persons (2)
DIR By: Ton RB
Date: July 29, 2025, 4:16 pm
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100% clear ;)
Thanks
Ton
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Re: Question about level Two with past persons (2)
DIR By: Dmitry
Date: October 6, 2025, 11:40 pm
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Hello Ton RB and TromFan,
here you may find some additional info about 2lvl by Vladimir,
you can use chatGPT to translate it from Russian (BB = RI):
1) lvl2 with objects:
HTML https://tromfree.blogspot.com/2013/02/2.html
2) lvl2 with persons:
HTML https://tromfree.blogspot.com/2012/04/2.html
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