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How Sri Nisargadatta obtained a benchmark awareness
DIR By: Colleen
Date: March 7, 2014, 3:13 pm
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From Niz:
"The Sense of "I am" (Consciousness)
When I met my Guru, he told me: "You are not what you take
yourself
to be. Find out what you are. Watch the sense 'I am', find your
real
Self." I obeyed him, because I trusted him. I did as he told me.
All
my spare time I would spend looking at myself in silence. And
what a
difference it made, and how soon!
My teacher told me to hold on to the sense 'I am' tenaciously
and not
to swerve from it even for a moment. I did my best to follow his
advice and in a comparatively short time I realized within
myself the
truth of his teaching. All I did was to remember his teaching,
his
face, his words constantly. This brought an end to the mind; in
the
stillness of the mind I saw myself as I am -- unbound.
I simply followed (my teacher's) instruction which was to focus
the
mind on pure being 'I am', and stay in it. I used to sit for
hours
together, with nothing but the 'I am' in my mind and soon peace
and
joy and a deep all-embracing love became my normal state. In it
all
disappeared -- myself, my Guru, the life I lived, the world
around
me. Only peace remained and unfathomable silence."
Nisargadatta Maharaj
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Re: How Sri Nisargadatta obtained a benchmark awareness
DIR By: Spirit neutral
Date: March 9, 2014, 11:20 am
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I am seems like a good workable process. Instead of resisting
all the I"s just say i am it, or I am. Thanks!
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Re: How Sri Nisargadatta obtained a benchmark awareness
DIR By: Colleen
Date: March 9, 2014, 11:57 am
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Whenever I attempt this process or something similar but with
more direction (i.e., "What am I") mind-stuff keeps coming up
and out. There is discharge accompanying this approach or else
it would not be worth doing.
For example: "What am I?" Answer: (Valence or identity
name); this gets acknowledged and question asked again and again
until person is VGI's ("Very Good Indicators").
I believe as Dennis says that the reason these sorts of
processes come to a grinding halt is lack of some sort of
havingness process.
You will notice that Niz probably got his havingness from
smoking -- just a guess.
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Re: How Sri Nisargadatta obtained a benchmark awareness
DIR By: supreme
Date: January 1, 2018, 6:42 am
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--- Quote from: Colleen link ---
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> Whenever I attempt this process or something similar but with
more direction (i.e., "What am I") mind-stuff keeps coming up
and out. There is discharge accompanying this approach or else
it would not be worth doing.
>
>
--- End Quote ---
"What am I" is the question asked in Kwan Um Zen.
Focusing on "I am" cuts all thought at the root because behind
every thought is the thought "I am this" or "I am that"
--- Quote from: Colleen link ---
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>
>
> I believe as Dennis says that the reason these sorts of
processes come to a grinding halt is lack of some sort of
havingness process.
>
>
--- End Quote ---
I suppose when you are a Buddhist and trying to drop all
attachment, you dont want any havingness :)
If this came to a halt or got boring, you could go on to Koan
practice.
--- Quote from: Colleen link ---
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> You will notice that Niz probably got his havingness from
smoking -- just a guess.
>
--- End Quote ---
I dont know what you mean by "havingness process" and "getting
havingness". Can you give some examples?
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Re: How Sri Nisargadatta obtained a benchmark awareness
DIR By: Colleen
Date: April 21, 2018, 3:00 am
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--- Quote from: supreme link ---
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> [quote author=Colleen link=topic=27.msg75#msg75
date=1394384232]
> Whenever I attempt this process or something similar but with
more direction (i.e., "What am I") mind-stuff keeps coming up
and out. There is discharge accompanying this approach or else
it would not be worth doing.
>
>
--- End Quote ---
"What am I" is the question asked in Kwan Um Zen.
Focusing on "I am" cuts all thought at the root because behind
every thought is the thought "I am this" or "I am that"
--- Quote from: Colleen link ---
>
>
>
> I believe as Dennis says that the reason these sorts of
processes come to a grinding halt is lack of some sort of
havingness process.
>
>
--- End Quote ---
I suppose when you are a Buddhist and trying to drop all
attachment, you dont want any havingness :)
If this came to a halt or got boring, you could go on to Koan
practice.
--- Quote from: Colleen link ---
>
> You will notice that Niz probably got his havingness from
smoking -- just a guess.
>
--- End Quote ---
I dont know what you mean by "havingness process" and "getting
havingness". Can you give some examples?
[/quote]
Dennis calls "havingness", Repair of Importances, and cites it
as necessary for as long as we still have a mind that abhors a
vacuum due to erasure during timebreaking. It smoothes the
path, temporarily quiets the mind. If I don't run havingness, or
R.I. I get the munchies (havingness of mass). Any creative
practice could probably be equivalent.
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