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Re: A Non-Scientology Version of TROM
DIR By: TromFan
Date: December 9, 2022, 10:58 am
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It's still a motivator. Just because you don't act on the
motivator, doesn't mean you don't have one. It's called a
motivator, not "guarantee you are going to do the same
thing-er". You are confusing 'motivator' with 'vengeance'. Now,
one would have to be in very good spiritual condition to receive
a motivator and it not aberrate them at all. So having a
motivator is not good for you, and I have no problems with that
term. Reason it out and you will see what I mean.
As far as the lock-scanning reference, I did a search on the
document, and you are right, that reference to lock-scanning is
not in the original manuscript. While I do remember all my TROM
conceptually, I guess the where-dennis-wrote-what part of my
recollection is not quite as clear as it was several years ago
when I was more active.
I do sometimes wish Dennis had made his works without mention of
Scientology, but if he did, then he would have had to re-explain
everything as written by Hubbard lest no one know the context of
which his works were in. Imagine if Dennis had to re-teach
Scientology but with new terms. It would be a waste of time.
But I will admit also that in disseminating TROM this is a
barrier-- for some people Scientology is a swear word.
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Re: A Non-Scientology Version of TROM
DIR By: Ransom Stark
Date: December 13, 2022, 4:44 am
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Hi there Khepri :)
> as a WOG (I get the feeling that this is a derogatory term?)
Nah it's not :)
It's a fun term that I believed was coined by LRH.
The definition is as follows:
a common, ordinary, run-of-the-mill, garden-variety humanoid, by
which we mean an individual that considers that he is a body and
does not know that he is there as a spirit at all.
> On 4, I have no idea what you are referring to, what errors
have been fixed and by who? Where is this stated and published?
I believe I've seen such intentions/discussions (or I've
interpreted it like this) somewhere in the other thread of this
forum.
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Re: A Non-Scientology Version of TROM
DIR By: Ransom Stark
Date: October 25, 2023, 12:53 pm
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Hey @Khepri
Here some of the mentioned definitions:
CLEFT STICK ScnMaster
a position in which advance and retreat are alike impossible, a
dilemma, a fix.
—ExDn Lectures Approved Glossary: Expanded Dianetics (30 March
1972)
LOCK SCANNING ScnMaster
a process in which one contacts an early lock on the track and
goes rapidly or slowly through all such similar incidents
straight to present time. One does this many times and the whole
chain of locks becomes ineffective in influencing one.
—Scientology 8-8008 Glossary Final approval c. 3 Mar 1990
LOCK SCANNING ScnTUEU
a process which starts the preclear from a point in the past
with which he has made solid contact up through all similar
incidents without verbalization. This is done over and over,
each time trying to start at an earlier incident of the same
kind, until the preclear extroverts on the subject of the chain.
Boil-off often results wherein the preclear seems to go to
sleep. Avoid boil-off for it is not therapeutic and will
eventually result in reduced tone. Boil-off is a lazy auditor's
excuse to be idle and facsimiles in such Severe conflict that
they will not resolve without resolving postulates first. Lock
Scanning is a standardized drill, starting on signal and ended
with the preclear saying he is again in present time. It can be
done on any subject. Above 2.0 (on the Tone Scale) only.
a process in which one contacts an early lock on the track and
goes rapidly or slowly through all such similar incidents
straight to present time. One does this many times and the whole
chain of locks becomes ineffective in influencing one. (Chapter
5, #10)
a process in which one contacts an early lock on the track and
goes rapidly or slowly through all such similar incidents
straight to present time. One does this many times and the whole
chain of locks becomes ineffective in influencing one. (Chapter
6, #12)
a process in which one contacts an early lock on the track and
goes rapidly or slowly through all such similar incidents
straight to present time. One does this many times and the whole
chain of locks becomes ineffective in influencing one.
a process which starts the preclear from a point in the past
with which he has made solid contact up through all similar
incidents without verbalization. This is done over and over,
each time trying to start at an earlier incident of the same
kind, until the preclear extroverts on the subject of the chain.
Boil-off often results wherein the preclear seems to go to
sleep. Avoid boil-off for it is not therapeutic and will
eventually result in reduced tone. Boil-off is a lazy auditor's
excuse to be idle and facsimiles in such severe conflict that
they will not resolve without resolving postulates first. Lock
scanning is a standardized drill, starting on signal and ended
with the preclear saying he is again in present time. It can be
done on any subject. Above 2.0 (on the Tone Scale) only.
LOCK SCANNINGS cnTUEU
contacting an early lock on the track and going rapidly or
slowly through all such similar incidents straight to present
time. One does this many times and the whole chain of locks
becomes ineffective in influencing one.
LOCK SCANNING ScnTech
one contacts an early loek on the track and goes rapidly or
slowly through all such similar incidents straight to present
time. One does this many times and the whole chain of locks
become ineffective in influencing one.
(HFP, pp. 99-100)
LOCK SCANNING (1) ScnMaster
a process which starts the preclear from a point in the past
with which he has made solid contact up through all similar
incidents without verbalization. This is done over and over,
each time trying to start at an earlier incident of the same
kind, until the preclear extroverts on the subject of the chain.
Boil-off often results wherein the preclear seems to go to
sleep. Avoid boil-off for it is not therapeutic and will
eventually result in reduced tone. Boil-off is a lazy auditor's
excuse to be idle and facsimiles in such severe conflict that
they will not resolve without resolving postulates first. Lock
scanning is a standardized drill, starting on signal and ended
with the preclear saying he is again in present time. It can be
done on any subject. Above 2.0 (on the Tone Scale) only.
—APA Glossary (app 11.7.90)
LOCK SCANNING (2) ScnMaster
contacting an early lock on the track and going rapidly or
slowly through all such similar incidents straight to present
time. One does this many times and the whole chain of locks
becomes ineffective in influencing one.
—9th ACC Volume 2 Approved Glossary
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Re: A Non-Scientology Version of TROM
DIR By: mjh
Date: November 3, 2023, 4:02 am
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Nice one JayDee - Cleft Stick is an interesting word with an
interesting history. Not used so much nowadays at all, a nice
link to our past.
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Re: A Non-Scientology Version of TROM
DIR By: first name
Date: March 3, 2024, 9:28 am
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[size=14pt]there are church of Scientology members and shills (
slaves ) on this forum since day 1. If I owned it or were a
moderator, Id remove all mention of Scientology from the games
manual and anyone promoting scientology in any way shape or form
. Delete, ban and block. :)
The church of scientology is thee most satanic org on earth,
right up there with the catholic church, , islam the jews, jesus
freaks and psycho therapists.
[/size]
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Re: A Non-Scientology Version of TROM
DIR By: mjh
Date: March 3, 2024, 1:23 pm
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Are you actually here for TROM or just $cio bashing?
If the former, I'd be interested in your experience and
understanding of it from someone with such an adverse opinion of
where Dennis started.
I have found that only a limited knowledge of Scientology was
actually required, and this information in itself could have
probably been presented in a way with no reference to that
subject with no loss of understanding.
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Re: A Non-Scientology Version of TROM
DIR By: first name
Date: March 3, 2024, 5:08 pm
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used both and you ?
Im here to bash scientology and the shills within. The evil
empire of $ for nothing. The only benfit I got from them were
the comm courses designed by Dennis.
Great Course , completely rotton hard core org.
Any one know what happened to Shelly ?
Murdered ?
#Post#: 1110--------------------------------------------------
Re: A Non-Scientology Version of TROM
DIR By: first name
Date: March 3, 2024, 5:11 pm
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nobody knows TROM better than I do and nobody has had more
success with it than I have. :)
nobody ,
What else would you like to know ?
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Re: A Non-Scientology Version of TROM
DIR By: TromFan
Date: March 6, 2024, 3:11 pm
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Trying to teach people TROM without mentioning Scientology is
like trying to teach algebra without mentioning mathematics.
TROM goes beyond Scientology. It's not Scientology itself.
If one lets their feelings about Scientology get in the way of
learning TROM, then I am afraid whoever does lacks the
intellectual capacity to learn TROM in the first place.
Such people are irrelevant to me and what I do.
And what I do is make TROM available to the masses as an
alternative route. A solution to the problems the Church poses
to society and even their parishioners.
Anyone wishing to learn TROM can visit my YouTube channel:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfLbaSxiUIUlOd5-enxsN6w
Anyone who wants to put TROM down and can't handle the fact
Dennis was a Scientologist can go f*ck themselves for all I
care. We have no use for you here.
#Post#: 1117--------------------------------------------------
Re: A Non-Scientology Version of TROM
DIR By: TromFan
Date: March 6, 2024, 3:18 pm
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Mister First Name:
Really? No one knows TROM better than you do and no one has had
more success with it than you?
Have you even spoken to everyone who practices TROM and measured
their case state against yours?
Have you even spoken to everyone that practices TROM to check
your knowledge of it against theirs?
I've never spoken to you. I consider myself to be one of the
few experts on the subject and also have benefitted from it
immensely. But I would never dare say I know it better than
everyone else or got more case gain from it. There is
absolutely no way to verify that.
And no one who is truly enlightened would make such a statement
as yours, one that invalidates all others. And for that reason
alone, I believe you are severely mistaken in your assertions.
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