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       To Educate / To be Educated
   DIR By: mjh
       Date: October 13, 2021, 6:25 pm
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       Here's a package that has been polluted over the years.
       To Educate and To be Educated
       It is well worth educating oneself on the actual meaning of this
       word...
       Current definition:
       educate /ˈɛdjʊkeɪt  /
       ▸ verb [with object] give intellectual, moral, and social
       instruction to (someone), typically at a school or university:
       she was educated at a boarding school.
       ▪ provide or pay for instruction for (one's child),
       especially at a school:
       she had crises of conscience about how best to educate her
       youngest child.
       ▪ give (someone) training in or information on a
       particular subject:
       a plan to educate the young on the dangers of drugs
       [with object and infinitive] the need to educate people to
       conserve water
       Though look at the derivation:
       educe /ɪˈdjuːs  /
       ▸ verb [with object] formal bring out or develop
       (something latent or potential):
       out of love obedience is to be educed.
       ▪ infer (something) from data:
       more information can be educed from these statistics.
       A complete inversion.
       I use the definition of educe when considering educate / even if
       our current system of education does the opposite... Where one
       is perhaps Forced to Know...
       #Post#: 864--------------------------------------------------
       Re: To Educate / To be Educated
   DIR By: guest62
       Date: October 18, 2021, 12:52 pm
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       how do these relate to the basic goal to know ? all goals lead
       to the goal , to know.
       Jr goals all lead to the basic goal . When you understand how
       this is , you progress will excel like never before.
       Which goal is originating ?
       Which goal is receiving ?
       how do both of these goal lead to the unified basic goal of
       knowing  ?
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       Re: To Educate / To be Educated
   DIR By: mjh
       Date: October 18, 2021, 1:22 pm
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       Well there's the question I proposed ...
       We have an inversion in our society
       Can YOU spot the problem - it's clear to me
       #Post#: 867--------------------------------------------------
       Re: To Educate / To be Educated
   DIR By: guest62
       Date: October 18, 2021, 2:10 pm
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       yes but ..........
       how do these relate to the basic goal to know ? all goals lead
       to the goal , to know.
       Jr goals all lead to the basic goal . When you understand how
       this is , you progress will excel like never before.
       Which goal is originating ?
       Which goal is receiving ?
       how do both of these goal lead to the unified basic goal of
       knowing  ?
       #Post#: 869--------------------------------------------------
       Re: To Educate / To be Educated
   DIR By: mjh
       Date: October 19, 2021, 12:00 am
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       In the first instance I refer you to the 'To Reason' GP - can
       you answer those questions with respect to that GP?
       In the second - let us initially take the perversion (the modern
       definition)
       To Educate - is the originating goal, here it is forcing the
       pupil to know something
       To be Educated - Is the overwhelmed state, I have come to know
       your postulates
       We can see that this perversion is pretty much a non-life
       package utilising this definition
       Using 'educe' as the base
       To educate - is the To Know flow it is drawing out, it is the
       receiving flow
       To be educated - is the To be Known flow, it is flowing out it's
       natural knowingness
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