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Re: How can I find charged past scene without e-meter
DIR By: Dmitry
Date: August 1, 2021, 7:08 am
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> What do you mean by "L2 have stopped."?
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I checked L2 with some objects and people. L2 was producing
changes for about 10 mins then gone flat.
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> If in doubt, run RI. Actually before and after a Level 2
session i still spend some good time making sure RI is producing
no change.
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RI is flat too.
I think I'm missing something fundamental...
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Re: How can I find charged past scene without e-meter
DIR By: Jur93n
Date: August 1, 2021, 7:12 am
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What are you looking for in terms of "change" ?
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Re: How can I find charged past scene without e-meter
DIR By: Dmitry
Date: August 1, 2021, 7:36 am
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> What are you looking for in terms of "change" ?
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Mental fog, body sensations, automatic muscle tension, insights,
past emotions risings, past scenes parts(visio) come to my mind,
automatic start of dynamic meditation movements(movement of
hands in a circle for example), emotional tone changes. I could
forget something :)
Thank you for trying to help :)
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Re: How can I find charged past scene without e-meter
DIR By: Dmitry
Date: August 1, 2021, 7:40 am
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Do you have any idea why e-meter gets reads, but I feel nothing?
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Re: How can I find charged past scene without e-meter
DIR By: Jur93n
Date: August 1, 2021, 7:59 am
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My suggestion would be to remove the dependency you have on the
e-meter and put the full attention on yourself and the
exercises.
Dennis was a fully trained auditor and I am not (even though i
had an e-meter), so i decided to just rely on myself and sold my
e-meter.
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Re: How can I find charged past scene without e-meter
DIR By: Jur93n
Date: August 1, 2021, 8:23 am
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Ok, let me share of what i do with the similarities and
differences. I have taken reference to the book "Self Analysis,
by L. Ron Hubbard" where it is described that the reactive mind
mostly records smells, sounds (+loudness), taste, vision, touch
etc.. so i build up a list of things i always want to use:
- seeing/vision, appearance
- hearing, soft and loud sound an object makes (and getting as
close to hearing the sound the past object makes and the present
object)
- smelling, smell the object has (and imagining smelling the
past object and present object)
- feeling, touching, the hardness/softness, dry/wet, hot/cold of
the material
- feeling, texture, moving your imaginary finger over the
surface(s) of the past and present object
- weight, actually feeling the weight of the past and present
object
- size or dimension
- significance, the function or purpose of the past/present
object and how their importance is intensified (a bicycle is
important when you need to travel)
- how it is used, see yourself using the past/present object
- taste, taste the past/present object as best as you can
- how i feel about the past/present object (ugly, beautiful,
angry, happy, bored)
Anyway, i just wanted to share this, hope it helps.
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Re: How can I find charged past scene without e-meter
DIR By: Jur93n
Date: August 1, 2021, 8:30 pm
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Dmitry, I hope you can figure it out what is happening. As for
the e-meter getting reads and you feeling nothing is because
only at the end of Level 3 will you be sensitive enough to
figure out what the read is. That is what Dennis mentions at the
end of Level 3.
Read and reread Level 2 and Level 3 to see where you are at.
Wish you well!.
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Re: How can I find charged past scene without e-meter
DIR By: Dmitry
Date: August 2, 2021, 3:03 am
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:D :P :)
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Re: How can I find charged past scene without e-meter
DIR By: Jur93n
Date: August 5, 2021, 5:33 pm
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Hi Dmitry, curious, how are you doing, have you figured out
where you are at?
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Re: How can I find charged past scene without e-meter
DIR By: Dmitry
Date: August 5, 2021, 9:30 pm
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:)
I'm ok, I think I'm now somewhere around lvl2 :)
I re-read TROM and have found two sentances that helped me:
(1)
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> Reality is the degree to which complementary postulates are
created.
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(2)
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> Communication is the action of creating complementary
postulates.
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So if I am black case with poor vision, and if my past objects
aren't real(1) for me, that means that I have no complementary
postulates with my past objects.
I took a dice from my past and have started to communicate(2)
with it to make some complementary postulates.
I say "Hello to dice", then I imagined that Dice say hello to
me.
That causes changes. That causes some need of RI. RI was flat
before that process.
That process works for me now.
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