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       Real
   DIR By: Jur93n
       Date: July 25, 2021, 8:39 pm
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       This morning doing L2 I got a clear notion of what you can do to
       the body in terms of reactions like fear, anxiety and other
       emotions and sensations. You can make certain things pretty real
       to yourself. Holding an imaginary knife above your hand can get
       a reaction out of the body. Imagining stand on a high pole with
       no support and thus almost falling can get fear and anxiety
       dialed up to the point of actually feeling it as if it is as
       real as PT.
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       Re: Real
   DIR By: Colleen
       Date: July 26, 2021, 8:21 am
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       Hubbard also tested out plants, and their "sentience" also
       reacts to threats.
       For example, I detect a sentience in my own body complex - for
       example once I made a statement during a long fast - a higher
       realization that "I may never eat again". This was a realization
       from a "higher mind". The mind of the body went into a visceral
       fit literally, and I quickly had to take my words back, lol.
       "Nice body, nice body, no worries...."   :)
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       Re: Real
   DIR By: Colleen
       Date: July 26, 2021, 8:23 am
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       LOL Before I got a conscience I used to do that with cats and
       squirrels  :)
       --- Quote from: Jur93n link ---
       >
       > This morning doing L2 I got a clear notion of what you can do
       to the body in terms of reactions like fear, anxiety and other
       emotions and sensations. You can make certain things pretty real
       to yourself. Holding an imaginary knife above your hand can get
       a reaction out of the body. Imagining stand on a high pole with
       no support and thus almost falling can get fear and anxiety
       dialed up to the point of actually feeling it as if it is as
       real as PT.
       >
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       #Post#: 814--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Real
   DIR By: guest62
       Date: August 21, 2021, 11:54 am
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       what is real ?  what is an illusion ?
       If everything we see hear smell taste say feel is an illusion ,
       then what IS real or reality  ?
       In order to see or know any illusion, its other half known as
       reality must be revealed to take the place of the illusion .
       Same for truth and its lie.
       There cant be an illusion by definition unless there is
       something real its being an illusion of.
       You once told me  " its ALL an illusion ". In a private email .
       It was the last email you sent me to
       slimspersonalemail@gmail.com
       Do you recall  ?
       What is reality then  ? What did you mean  ?
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       Re: Real
   DIR By: Jur93n
       Date: August 21, 2021, 9:41 pm
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       ALL is an illusion in the sense that our perception is
       distorted, we regard the present time as real and the past as
       not real. This is mainly because we so engrossed in the "body
       game" and we cannot touch past object with our present time
       body, so we say the past is not real. From a self point of view,
       everything is real, the whole time track, but when you start to
       look at this universe, the only way it is real is because we say
       so.
       Dennis also states this: "Therefore, this late in the game very
       few things are what they appear to be, and illusions are
       rampant."
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