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       #Post#: 458--------------------------------------------------
       The reductio ad absurdum of The Church of Scientology (as
       opposed to the tech itself)
   DIR By: guest54
       Date: April 28, 2019, 2:36 am
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       (The following is a work of fiction)
       A parishioner walks into the Div 2 registrar's office after
       completing a service.  The registrar greets them, and after
       exchanging pleasantries says, "Congratulations on completing
       your service.  Now, the rest of your auditing steps to make it
       to Clear will cost you around $50,000"
       The parishioner smiles and says, "No thanks.  That's too much."
       "You don't have the money?  Well, I can probably find a
       financial institution that will give you credit..."
       "No, I have the money, it's just that right now $50,000 is more
       important to me than going Clear."
       "You do realize this is your eternity, right?"
       "Yeah, sure it is."
       "Well, then you should realize that going Clear is more
       important than your $50,000"
       The parishioner looks down and thinks this over for a moment,
       then looks up.  "But $50,000 is more important to you than my
       going Clear, isn't it?"
       "That doesn't make sense.  I'm only trying to help you.  If you
       have the money, and want to go clear, then what's the problem?"
       "The money is more important to me than going Clear is.  And the
       money is more important to you than my going Clear.  If it
       wasn't, you would find a way to make me a Clear without charging
       me that much money."
       "There has to be exchange.  We need the money for our staff, for
       our building..."
       "It does not matter whether it is by preference or necessity.
       The truth of the matter is that you will not let me go Clear
       unless I pay you $50,000.  So getting the money is more
       important to you than my spiritual freedom."
       "Look, Scientology is your only hope of spiritual freedom."
       "And, you are in fact holding that spiritual freedom hostage
       until I pay you $50,000.  It's extortion, when you think about
       it."
       "You could get declared for saying things like that."
       "Well then, at least I get to keep my $50,000, right?"
       #Post#: 459--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The reductio ad absurdum of The Church of Scientology (as
       opposed to the tech itself)
   DIR By: Colleen
       Date: April 28, 2019, 5:11 am
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       --- Quote from: Closet Trom-er link ---
       >
       > (The following is a work of fiction)
       > A parishioner walks into the Div 2 registrar's office after
       completing a service.  The registrar greets them, and after
       exchanging pleasantries says, "Congratulations on completing
       your service.  Now, the rest of your auditing steps to make it
       to Clear will cost you around $50,000"
       > The parishioner smiles and says, "No thanks.  That's too
       much."
       > "You don't have the money?  Well, I can probably find a
       financial institution that will give you credit..."
       > "No, I have the money, it's just that right now $50,000 is
       more important to me than going Clear."
       > "You do realize this is your eternity, right?"
       > "Yeah, sure it is."
       > "Well, then you should realize that going Clear is more
       important than your $50,000"
       > The parishioner looks down and thinks this over for a moment,
       then looks up.  "But $50,000 is more important to you than my
       going Clear, isn't it?"
       > "That doesn't make sense.  I'm only trying to help you.  If
       you have the money, and want to go clear, then what's the
       problem?"
       > "The money is more important to me than going Clear is.  And
       the money is more important to you than my going Clear.  If it
       wasn't, you would find a way to make me a Clear without charging
       me that much money."
       > "There has to be exchange.  We need the money for our staff,
       for our building..."
       > "It does not matter whether it is by preference or necessity.
       The truth of the matter is that you will not let me go Clear
       unless I pay you $50,000.  So getting the money is more
       important to you than my spiritual freedom."
       > "Look, Scientology is your only hope of spiritual freedom."
       > "And, you are in fact holding that spiritual freedom hostage
       until I pay you $50,000.  It's extortion, when you think about
       it."
       > "You could get declared for saying things like that."
       > "Well then, at least I get to keep my $50,000, right?"
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Geoffrey Filbert in "Excalibur Revisited" has an extended Scale
       of Awarenesses that goes all the way down to "money".
       It is ironic - when Dennis says money is a system of power -
       that the organization that is going to help bring you to a state
       where you have power of postulate is itself stuck in awareness
       of money to obtain power.
       On the other hand there is the story of Jesus telling the rich
       man to sell all his material goods and follow him ....
       Trom takes money out of the picture and puts emphasis on
       recovering power of postulate.
       #Post#: 460--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The reductio ad absurdum of The Church of Scientology (as
       opposed to the tech itself)
   DIR By: Spirit neutral
       Date: April 30, 2019, 11:33 am
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       Very true. :)
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