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       good and bad 
   DIR By: guest53
       Date: February 26, 2019, 3:13 pm
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       LRH says no such thing as good and bad.
       Dennis says not exactly . He said you gotta have good and bad
       but he agrees with everything else ?  hmmm
       Is the opposite of  " know"  , not know " or how about self and
       others ? or origin and receipt ?
       if opposites exist , the yexist so how can good and bad or all
       the others not exist ?
       Even level 5 . it flips polarity half way through .
       Since it only flips one time like up and down for example , that
       means its still dual poles .
       His stuff is very dualistic
       Gender  stuff . Males originate and females at the receipt point
       receive the orgination . Sex act.
       where is this place Dennis mentions, " there "  as in he doesnt
       know anyone who got  " there  "  yet .
       Where is "THERE"  ?  1 with all life  ?  Near Havana ?
       Why is Jurgen only on level 3  ? since what 2001? 18 , 19 years
       ?
       are all trommers ex scientologists ?
       Thanks for reading hope to hear back from everyone soon
       PACE  V
       #Post#: 399--------------------------------------------------
       Re: good and bad 
   DIR By: Colleen
       Date: February 27, 2019, 7:39 am
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       Hello, Joey :-)
       I think I replied to MJH's recent post instead of yours on the
       subject of good and evil.
       Personally I would not ask why is Jurgen - or anyone else -
       stalled on a level of trom.  I would only ask for myself, and my
       personal answer was even brought up by Dennis, only I don't
       think Dennis realized how subtle and prevalent it is.  That is
       the subject of brain damage or brain occlusions.  I am
       personally addressing that as part of my first dynamic condition
       handling - with great optimism and confidence - that is the
       level I am currently at - a very rudimentary and necessary
       undercut for myself.  However, I have mastered and frequently
       rely on the repair of importances practice, which has even saved
       me from death.
       Dennis' second observation was the materialistic/narcissistic
       condition of "Man the materialist" (his quote)... when winning
       becomes so important that the other players are nothing more
       than pawns in a delusional big game.  The Apostle Paul is said
       to have said, "The love of money is the root of all evil", and
       Dennis said money is a substitute system for pure postulate
       power.
       RE my practice of Trom, I came to the conclusion - after doing
       Level Three - that I quickied through Level Two, and have
       dropped back to level two, focusing on my fixation on colors and
       the sensations I get from them.
       I'm not speaking of anyone but myself, asking what is
       dis-empowering me.
       How can one complete any mind-bending practice if one cannot
       thinketh straight?
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       Re: good and bad 
   DIR By: guest53
       Date: February 28, 2019, 1:29 pm
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       Thanks Karalee
       Just a joke re the Jurg and l3
       Nice to hear you’re on l2 It’s a whopper Great way to see the
       differences of similarities .
       When I first saw the levels of Pfcc, I ran them as completely
       postulate like arc straight wire but I ran then In objective
       reality not subjective as COMPLEMTRY NOT opposing. For the fun
       of it Felt great too . I was completing everything that came my
       way .
       Then 3 4 5 .
       I had no idea where it would take me
       Not “ where “ I thought at the time .
       Can you reply to the other questions ?
       THANKS !!!
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       Re: good and bad 
   DIR By: Colleen
       Date: February 28, 2019, 9:07 pm
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       That's a very innovative way to get your toes wet with running
       the Postulate Failure Chart and I shall give it a run that way
       too.  Yes level four packs a punch, hehehe :-) it might be
       addressing and undoing one of the basic implanting methods.
       Have you ever tried running Level Four?
       Have you ever tried running the code of ethics, as in "Get the
       idea of forcing someone to know a thing against their choice?"
       and timebreaking whatever comes up for that day?
       Re your question.  If I were being the "To Know" side of the
       game then my most restimulative opposer would be someone being
       "not be known". Of course we have a lot more in common than we
       can admit in order to keep the game running.
       Lester Levenson went into what he called the "Causal Realm"
       after getting up to running out Separation and Oneness. Would
       that be one of Dennis' Twin Impossibility Points (TIP or TIPM)?
       Besides Dennis' correct opposers I also come up against what you
       call dualities - fixed dualities that need to be de-bugged.
       Doesn't Dennis call them Twin Impossibility Points?  I have
       plenty of those and initially it feels painful when I first
       contact them, so it is a relief to run them.
       Yes, some Trommers are not associated with Scientology... this
       lifetime at least. Scientology in some form has been around for
       at least billions ... it was around during the time of what Ron
       called the OT3 incident.  Until now it seems it has always been
       doomed to defeat from without, and a half-baked failure from
       within... degraded into another - what Dennis calls - "freedom
       factory".  What if Ron knew it was just a red herring? Don't you
       just love those covert game strategies?  LOL
       Overall though I'm optimistic about seeing my cause and changing
       my mind towards complementary life-oriented goals - a renewed
       life for all :-)
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