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       Re: Vote to ban Caos 
   DIR By: Caos
       Date: September 30, 2015, 9:29 am
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       IPs don't match.
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       Re: Vote to ban Caos 
   DIR By: Sparta
       Date: September 30, 2015, 9:31 am
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       You can use different computers!  I could use my school laptop
       then my phone and no one would know but last night Columbia
       logged off and Dreobaca logged in and questioned me about the
       Preston-Heath RP.
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       Re: Vote to ban Caos 
   DIR By: Dreobaca
       Date: September 30, 2015, 9:32 am
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       Ips are based of WiFi not computers.
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       Re: Vote to ban Caos 
   DIR By: Caos
       Date: September 30, 2015, 9:36 am
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       Yes, and no.
       PM me to explain
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       Re: Vote to ban Caos 
   DIR By: West Phoenicia
       Date: September 30, 2015, 9:43 am
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       Before I start. I will state I voted no to the banning.
       1. You have stopped seperating occ from ic. You personally
       attack people ooc based off ic posts. Your latest accusation of
       calling me a racist was the finally straw. And it equates to
       libel as it was an ooc attack. I gave you a definition of what
       racism is, you choose to ignore it. You have never showed a
       shred of evidence where I used racial taunts or racially
       villified another race. Your thoughtlessness can damage my
       reputation outside of this forum. I am in the process of signing
       a deal to get a book I wrote published and  two people I asked
       to join this forum were put off by your attitude. I will not
       have my name and yes my name has been now mentioned on this
       forum dragged through the mud.
       2. You keep demanding people respect you. Respect is earnt. You
       scream and demand and throw an attitude when someone doesnt
       respect you. Maybe if you were not so offensive and crude people
       may listen but why should they. You dont respect them. And you
       were a terrible mod. It took me having to goto Gondor and CSM as
       you would not act on the posts I reported.
       3. You demean Sparta at any chance. A rp mentor does not
       belittle they build someone up. And at times you have also
       belittled Carolina Alliance.
       4. I am sure AK is weighing up all the facts not just your
       offsite altercation with him. He works off chances not wanting
       to ban people hope a warning would be enough. You had alot of
       protection under Gondor but times have changed. Yes you and I
       got at it offsite. And AK called for it to cease, you than
       posted messages from the last conversation but neglected to post
       previous ones, one in which spoke ill of my deceased mother
       which has left me in a depressive mood.
       5. AK asked us not to interact. You went against that by bombing
       a WP ship hoping to cause a negative reaction and you posted on
       the Jefferson-Antebellum Party rally which had people wanting to
       physically injury someone. There was no point to that post apart
       from wanting to cause a negative response from Columbia.
       6. You attended the townhall meeting. You were not very vocal on
       opposing anyone but myself. If you chose to spend that tome
       trying to ensure I was not voted in, instead of expressing admin
       qualities of other people than maybe the result would have been
       different. Thats no ones fault but your own.
       7. I dont single anyone out. I find my creativity to chose a
       state of my choosing is always stepped on. And this region votes
       off mateship not real life politics. But that didnt bother you
       when you had previous mod backing.
       I treat you as you treat me. I would hope in doing so it would
       have giving you a wake up call, but clearly it hasnt. Yes you
       are very good in some of your rp as long as it goes to how you
       want it to be. Many times you asked people to change something,
       many times there was a good reason behind it.
       Both times I have asked why is rp going so fast. It has been a
       bad luck move on. And there was no comprising.  You also often
       accuse people what you yourself are guilty of. Take the
       impeachment issue, your quite ok in getting me impeached but you
       yourself have displayed unseemly behavior but you want people to
       overlook that. It is a sad day that a player who has been here a
       week can see that also.
       You want respect. Start earning it and stop treating people as
       if they are puppets that must play the way you want. And curb
       your tongue. There are people here 13, 14 and 15 years old. They
       dont need too be hearing cussing.
       So no I dont think he should be banned. Restricted to some
       extent as AK has yet to post and there are two sides to every
       story. And I say this becuase I have been on the end of your
       accusations. And quite frankly you were not wholly truthful.
       Sparta: if you have reason to believe someone is a puppet. Go
       tell a mod. Not pull the whole if she is a witch she will
       float/sink routine. The writing styles are way off. Even if
       someone was faking it they would trip up.
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       Re: Vote to ban Caos 
   DIR By: Caos
       Date: September 30, 2015, 10:03 am
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       1. No, I don't. I called you a bigot and racist because you
       were. You hated my beliefs and tried to show that in every way.
       I still have those pictures. And don't make me show them.
       2. You didn't give me respect from the beginning, so don't talk
       about respect. All you've cared about was yourself. From day one
       you wouldn't listen. I told you your reports weren't founded.
       That was my decision as a mod. But you couldn't take that. You
       couldn't handle that someone didn't think your way. That was the
       MODERATOR's decision. What was yours? Undermine them, and act
       like a victim because of it.  Don't act high and mighty when you
       weren't. And jesus are you bringing this up again? What do you
       want to do?
       3. I use snark. Which isn't belittling. Yes, I think they can be
       stupid. Yes, CA is kind of immature and he's not too smart. I
       will say that out loud. Yes, Sparta doesn't listen. No, I don't
       hate him. I don't like CA though. But I don't go out of my way
       to insult them.
       4. You have a dead mom? When did you care to mention this?
       Before or after you tried acting like an ass to me? Before or
       after you acted like you were right. Before or after you
       viciously harassed and baited me?
       5. It kind of was important. I wanted you in the war. And that
       would've probably happened.
       6. Yeah I proposed myself. I didn't like the idea of the Ak and
       Diana posse again because it went horribly last time. And now? I
       saw what he is capable of, and I don't like it.
       Oh lord jesus it's a revelation. Im saved. Truly. You treated me
       like shit from the beginning. Don't give me this. I treated you
       nicely, then stopped. Because it wasn't worth it. My Rps are
       good all around. Even YOU don't know the same things I do, and
       somehow that means I'm wrong? Just because someone does
       something stupid it's now my fault?
       7. I havent displayed unseemly behavior, and I have no idea
       where it came from. But from the beginning you've had an
       attitude of "I'm right, you're wrong, and as such, you're a
       piece of shit". From the BEGINNING. CSM agreed and told you to
       stop. But you didnt. And now you act like it was deserved. So
       what of this hypocrisy? You come after me day after day before.
       Even now you do it with your frivolous mod reports that AK is
       absolutely fed up with. You wanna complain? Take some blame.
       Otherwise stop hiding behind whatever you can use as an excuse.
       Like your service, for one.
       #Post#: 3891--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Vote to ban Caos 
   DIR By: Pharq/WMC Co.
       Date: September 30, 2015, 10:24 am
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       Something that is inappropriate or unacceptable behavior is
       unseemly. It's a gentler, somewhat nicer word for
       "inappropriate" than its synonyms, the "in" words: "indecent,
       indecorous, indelicate, inelegant, inept"
       #Post#: 3896--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Vote to ban Caos 
   DIR By: Coggernaut
       Date: September 30, 2015, 11:06 am
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       Your worried about forgery? Fine, you can see the resaults. We
       didnt want the resualts influencing your vote. I'll open up the
       resualts.
       #Post#: 3898--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Vote to ban Caos 
   DIR By: Coggernaut
       Date: September 30, 2015, 11:23 am
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       Caos believes we're randomly attacking him. He believes he's
       done NOTHING to deserve ANY of this. He believes that WP,
       Sparta, Columbia, AK, I, and Pharq just randomly decided to
       attack him with all this.  I talked with him or an hour trying
       to explain to him that it's a mutual fault for the fights. Do
       you really think we just decided to ban for no reason?
       You bait people, you insault people, you use insaults while
       trying to explain something, you tend to focus in on certain
       people and constantly go after them. You make posts designed to
       incite a reaction. (Need evidence? I'll get the quotes) Do you
       honostly believe you've done all of this in retaliation. That
       you are innocent, that you are a victum of a currupt system that
       makes charges with no evidence o back them up. That the forum
       wants to start start fights and go after you for no reason. That
       you have done NOTHING to have these reactions. Do you think
       we're making this up? That we're framing you? Do you think we
       are removing one of our mos active RP'ers because "Meh, I feel
       like banning someone today".
       We do things maturely, talk it out, hear both sides, and try to
       work with people and help them explain the issue.  We dont want
       to ban anyone.
       Now caos isnt the only one at fault, but the facts are facts.
       Need quotes, I can get them.
       Caos, answer me. Do you honostly, truely believe You've done
       nothing to deserve any of this? Do you really believe that
       everyone is ganging up on you randomly for no reason?
       If not, why would they be doing this? Why is this happening?
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       Re: Vote to ban Caos 
   DIR By: Coggernaut
       Date: September 30, 2015, 2:03 pm
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