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       Re: ESA-CSC Joint Endeavours
   DIR By: The Carolina Alliance
       Date: September 27, 2015, 6:26 pm
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       Perhaps the station could also act as a refueling station so
       that we could do the mars mission in the future.
       #Post#: 3572--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ESA-CSC Joint Endeavours
   DIR By: Confederacy of Turkducken
       Date: September 27, 2015, 7:07 pm
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       As a modular expansion of course, not only would that be an
       expensive thing to upkeep, but also difficult to transport.
       #Post#: 3576--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ESA-CSC Joint Endeavours
   DIR By: The Carolina Alliance
       Date: September 27, 2015, 7:33 pm
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       It isn't that difficult. Choose efficient engines and/or have
       tanks of fuel that aren't used by the engines to the station
       before a mission. Dock then to the space station, and once empty
       separate them from the rest of the station. Then repeat. But
       they wouldn't be sent up with the main part of the station, ad
       that would be too heavy. But having a refueling station much
       increases your range for space travel, as the most fuel is used
       to escape the atmosphere.
       #Post#: 3580--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ESA-CSC Joint Endeavours
   DIR By: Confederacy of Turkducken
       Date: September 27, 2015, 7:41 pm
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       OOC: I don't mean to be insulting, but Kerbal Space Program
       makes it look easy, it's not. The entire Gemini program was to
       master the process of docking, but it's still incredibly
       difficult.
       #Post#: 3588--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ESA-CSC Joint Endeavours
   DIR By: The Carolina Alliance
       Date: September 27, 2015, 9:35 pm
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       Docking could be made easier by separating camera probes from
       the station. This way one could see from all angles as if it
       were the game, along with having radio transmissions from the
       station giving the crew information on their location and
       trajectory.
       #Post#: 3598--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ESA-CSC Joint Endeavours
   DIR By: Enduranca
       Date: September 27, 2015, 11:56 pm
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       "Gentlemen, please. We have a proposal to submit for a larger
       station- perhaps we can increase it to high orbit." She presses
       a few buttons, and a picture appears on the screen behind her.
  HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/Mir-2.jpg
       "This is SURTSEY. A modular design, it will be constructed in
       orbit. Currently, we're estimating it can hold a crew of 6.
       Getting up to orbit will be difficult, requiring larger launch
       vehicles. But it could work. Thoughts?"
       #Post#: 3602--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ESA-CSC Joint Endeavours
   DIR By: Confederacy of Turkducken
       Date: September 28, 2015, 1:23 am
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       Besides being exactly what I proposed, no it's a wonderful
       design. Does it have a horticulture center?
       #Post#: 3610--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ESA-CSC Joint Endeavours
   DIR By: The Carolina Alliance
       Date: September 28, 2015, 9:28 am
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       Those random beams towards the back could be removed. But this
       is a good design. We would just need very large engines, and
       probably some SRBs to boot unless we can find liquid engines
       powerful enough.
       #Post#: 3617--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ESA-CSC Joint Endeavours
   DIR By: Enduranca
       Date: September 28, 2015, 1:21 pm
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       "We don't have plans yet for any experiments or horitculture on
       board; we can determine that further along. The beams you see in
       the back are multi-functional derricks- they're static, meaning
       they don't move, but we can run communications through them,
       cameras, sensors, possibly even spacewalk assistance.
       "Getting crew and supplies to this station can be done via ESA's
       Soyuz spacecraft. But we need a heavy lifter to get these
       modules into orbit. And assembling them will require a crew to
       go with."
       #Post#: 3618--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ESA-CSC Joint Endeavours
   DIR By: The Carolina Alliance
       Date: September 28, 2015, 1:36 pm
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       Ok, so the beams are important. As for lifting, we have
       developed several powerful rockets used in large missiles as
       well as scramjets. The use of jets in the atmosphere can improve
       efficiency by saving rocket fuel until it's needed.
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