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       #Post#: 1848--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Military Realism Thread, MK-1: The dummy stage
   DIR By: Caos
       Date: September 9, 2015, 6:38 pm
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       Its actually optional. Its to augment STOL and VTOL and whatnot.
       #Post#: 1849--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Military Realism Thread, MK-1: The dummy stage
   DIR By: Confederacy of Turkducken
       Date: September 9, 2015, 6:39 pm
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       Hmm...interesting...
       #Post#: 1850--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Military Realism Thread, MK-1: The dummy stage
   DIR By: Confederacy of Turkducken
       Date: September 9, 2015, 6:42 pm
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       So are Ironclads valid in this day and age? Like they would be
       almost ripped to literal pieces if even an old WWII battleship
       fired upon them, but could they serve any purpose?
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       #Post#: 1851--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Military Realism Thread, MK-1: The dummy stage
   DIR By: Caos
       Date: September 9, 2015, 6:43 pm
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       Not really. Modern weapons would probably rip it to shreds.
       #Post#: 1854--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Military Realism Thread, MK-1: The dummy stage
   DIR By: Confederacy of Turkducken
       Date: September 9, 2015, 6:48 pm
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       Sad day.
       Speaking of battleships, I understand that its more cost
       effective to have missile cruisers, as the damage a missile
       deals far outweighs the damage output of any conventional
       kinetic launch, but are they really THAT outdated?
       #Post#: 1856--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Military Realism Thread, MK-1: The dummy stage
   DIR By: Caos
       Date: September 9, 2015, 6:52 pm
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       Yes and no. The idea of guns blaring on a broadside is out, and
       has been out for a while. However, as an actual gunship, it is
       wonderful. Furthermore, it acts like a very defendable heavy
       artillery piece. Good offense, in that it can fit missiles, and
       launch large cruise missiles and ballistic weaponry, and good
       defense in that it can destroy large amounts of missiles, can
       launch large AA and ABMs, and that it is armored.
       It is, however, slow and expensive.
       #Post#: 1857--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Military Realism Thread, MK-1: The dummy stage
   DIR By: Confederacy of Turkducken
       Date: September 9, 2015, 6:53 pm
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       So its more for the sake of cost, rather than impracticality? Or
       is it impractical because of cost?
       #Post#: 1858--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Military Realism Thread, MK-1: The dummy stage
   DIR By: Caos
       Date: September 9, 2015, 6:54 pm
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       WW2 battleships are impractical and EXTREMELY expensive.
       Modern battleships can be worth it, if you know how to use and
       finance it.
       #Post#: 2388--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Military Realism Thread, MK-1: The dummy stage
   DIR By: Confederacy of Turkducken
       Date: September 15, 2015, 2:27 am
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       We don't really talk equipment here, why is that?
       #Post#: 2389--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Military Realism Thread, MK-1: The dummy stage
   DIR By: Caos
       Date: September 15, 2015, 8:20 am
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       Explain?
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