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       Re: July 4
   DIR By: The Dudely Lama
       Date: July 4, 2019, 9:18 pm
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       im probably not going to address this right now...   later
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       Re: July 4
   DIR By: AJ
       Date: July 4, 2019, 9:23 pm
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       --- Quote from: The Dudely Lama link ---
       >
       > im probably not going to address this right now...   later
       >
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       Respect.
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       Re: July 4
   DIR By: The Dudely Lama
       Date: July 4, 2019, 9:49 pm
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       by the way... its raining...  lol...
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       Re: July 4
   DIR By: AJ
       Date: July 4, 2019, 10:11 pm
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       --- Quote from: The Dudely Lama link ---
       >
       > by the way... its raining...  lol...
       >
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       it ain't here....The heathens are lighting up the sky and
       shattering the quiet.
       >:(
       Gonna put the headphones back on and think about turning
       in....may require a beer.  ;D
       Broke a string on the Tele 10 minutes ago. busted my groove all
       to hell.
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       Re: July 4
   DIR By: The Dudely Lama
       Date: July 5, 2019, 8:09 am
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       the rain kept things to a minimum here in the woods...  probably
       just delayed until tonight...  either way we have about a week
       of stupidity before it gets back to status quo...
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       Re: July 4
   DIR By: guest11
       Date: July 5, 2019, 8:35 am
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       --- Quote from: AJ link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Danocoustic link=topic=421.msg4058#msg4058
       date=1562288678]
       > Ah hell, I sure didn't mean you, when I said I often bite my
       tongue.
       >
       > I'm in a totally shit mood. I apologize. This is a real tough
       day for me to begin with, and I just wish we could have ONE
       DAY---ah, screw it.
       >
       > RIP Robert Ernest Singer 17JAN1932-4JUL1980
       > my father
       >
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       My dad was born in '32 as well. He also died in July...July
       16th, 1989.
       I know what you mean about having one day to...Well.....I know
       what you mean. We have to make those days for ourselves I guess.
       The Declaration of Independence is something beyond American
       really. I think it's worth celebrating as a treatise for freedom
       of thought. The fact that the nation it formed is still trying
       to realize the promise set forth by that document, is
       undeniable. The thing is, way back then, a few brave, somewhat
       crazy characters managed to put down in words an abject
       condemnation of tyranny.
       The ideals set forth in that document are worthy of praise. The
       sacrifices made should be honored. The sins should be accounted
       for as well.
       On July 4...It would be great, if as Americans we could all just
       stand together as Brothers and Sisters....And then take up our
       arguments with each other tomorrow.
       That just ain't the world we live in anymore, however. I don't
       think that world ever really was.
       So I put out my flag....Grilled some burgers and drank two
       beers. Tonight I'll be cussing the knuckleheads out shooting
       fireworks into the wee hours while I'm trying to get some sleep.
       'Cuz it's America...And i gotta work tomorrow.
       I go on call tomorrow night....I'm gonna be a bitchy bastard for
       the next 7 days and nights.
       [/quote]It seems you kinda get what I mean.
       I revere this country and the principles it was founded on.
       I am NOT a fan of its current political reality. And I don't
       think EITHER party that is clogging up its potential has any
       right to claim superiority. I see an equal amount of hatred
       being spewed from both "sides" of this. I don't want to
       participate.
       I put a fair amount of my blood, treasure and energy into
       walking my talk.
       When I get called a "Nazi" for disagreeing with points of view I
       consider uninformed and senseless, it hurts. Do you actually
       know what a Nazi is? (not you AJ). That's just hatred. Don't try
       to claim acceptance and tolerance when you spew that kind of
       hatred. That's phony and disingenuous.
       I sincerely regret feeling angry with people who I otherwise
       admire and respect---but gawddambit, you can only push me SO FAR
       before I push back.
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       Re: July 4
   DIR By: The Dudely Lama
       Date: July 5, 2019, 12:31 pm
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       “He has excited domestic Insurrections amongst us, and has
       endeavoured to bring on the Inhabitants of our Frontiers, the
       merciless Indian Savages, whose known Rule of Warfare, is an
       undistinguished Destruction, of all Ages, Sexes and Conditions.”
       from the constitution of the united states...
       fuck the lies.   this country is founded on lies and the blood
       of innocents.  deceit and treachery are the hallmarks of every
       single agreement made with any native nation. ever! period!
       death and disease was the gift of accepting the ways of the
       “civilized” colonizers...   to this day equal rights is a joke,
       mockery and racism is publicly acceptable.  i am a close friend
       of a man that was beaten and kept in a closet because he called
       for his mother in his native language...  land of the free?  i
       get it that you want a day of peace, a day where we can all sit
       down and say, wtf!  lets let all this shit go!  yay!     thats
       what i want too... but it has to start by telling the truth and
       accepting that what we did was wrong so IT WONT FUCKING EVER
       HAPPEN  TO ANYONE EVER FUCKING AGAIN...
       im tired of feeling like some fucking dog begging at your
       goddamned table for fucking scraps...  when youre sitting at my
       motherfucking table to begin with...  im willing to share
       everything i have if you ask...  but taking without asking, or
       taking by lies is stealing...  and waiting until tomorrow to set
       things right is how we are this far behind now...  i pray for a
       time to accept the truth so we can all move forward.
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       Re: July 4
   DIR By: guest11
       Date: July 5, 2019, 3:21 pm
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       I am not a victim. Neither a volunteer. I cannot change what
       happened in the past, I can only be responsible for what I do.
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       Re: July 4
   DIR By: The Dudely Lama
       Date: July 5, 2019, 4:27 pm
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       :-X
       #Post#: 4088--------------------------------------------------
       Re: July 4
   DIR By: guest11
       Date: July 5, 2019, 4:56 pm
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       [quote author=The Dudely Lama link=topic=421.msg4087#msg4087
       date=1562362046]
       :-X
       [/quot
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