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       July 4
   DIR By: AJ
       Date: July 4, 2019, 8:58 am
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       Special forum theme for today. Fancy huh?
       Got my flag up. Texted my thanks to my nephews who are in the
       service.
       No special plans for today. I’m on standby for the guy on call
       so not straying to far from home.
       Possible a grill will be employed at some point.
       Tonight we’ll kick back and watch the neighborhood send their
       disposable income into the skies. Might, or might not, down a
       cold beer while doing so.
       Mostly just going to enjoy a day off to chill a bit, and tip my
       hat to those who have served, and do serve keeping this country
       free.
       Thanks for your service Dano!
       #Post#: 4051--------------------------------------------------
       Re: July 4
   DIR By: The Dudely Lama
       Date: July 4, 2019, 9:25 am
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       today i get to try to keep horses in a fence all but
       destroyed...  no barn to put them in, thanks michael...
       dogs from abusive situations that will try to run off or dig
       through the laundry room walls to get away from the
       explosions...  all while wondering if the kids held in
       concentration camps will enjoy the fireworks...
       as a native, i have always had a bit of a bitter taste at some
       holidays...thanksgiving, 4th of july in particular.   please
       understand my difficulty at being assimilated into the
       collective...  but im having a real tough time over celebrating
       what i see as a farce.
       #Post#: 4052--------------------------------------------------
       Re: July 4
   DIR By: AJ
       Date: July 4, 2019, 9:43 am
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       --- Quote from: The Dudely Lama link ---
       >
       > today i get to try to keep horses in a fence all but
       destroyed...  no barn to put them in, thanks michael...
       > dogs from abusive situations that will try to run off or dig
       through the laundry room walls to get away from the
       explosions...  all while wondering if the kids held in
       concentration camps will enjoy the fireworks...
       >
       > as a native, i have always had a bit of a bitter taste at some
       holidays...thanksgiving, 4th of july in particular.   please
       understand my difficulty at being assimilated into the
       collective...  but im having a real tough time over celebrating
       what i see as a farce.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I do understand Jamie. We’ve talked about the very valid
       feelings and righteous anger that wells up inside you regarding
       these days. Your ancestors got one of the rawest deals, and
       cruelest treatments in human history.
       You’ve every right to turn a jaundiced eye towards the
       celebrations that ensue today.
       My dog always was inconsolable during firework
       holidays.....Thunderstorms too. Hope your charges fare well
       tonight.
       #Post#: 4053--------------------------------------------------
       Re: July 4
   DIR By: The Dudely Lama
       Date: July 4, 2019, 10:10 am
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       im praying for rain...
       #Post#: 4054--------------------------------------------------
       Re: July 4
   DIR By: dinkleburg
       Date: July 4, 2019, 10:13 am
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       --- Quote from: The Dudely Lama link ---
       >
       > im praying for rain...
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I'll see if I can send you some of ours.
       We have had a wet, rainy and generally cold last 6 weeks or so.
       #Post#: 4055--------------------------------------------------
       Re: July 4
   DIR By: dinkleburg
       Date: July 4, 2019, 10:17 am
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       --- Quote from: AJ link ---
       >
       > ...very valid feelings and righteous anger that wells up
       inside you regarding these days. Your ancestors got one of the
       rawest deals, and cruelest treatments in human history.
       >
       >
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       ^This
       The indigenous peoples of Canada got an equally raw deal, and
       still are getting one to this day.
       It makes me sad when I drive through the first nations areas in
       our province. :(
       #Post#: 4056--------------------------------------------------
       Re: July 4
   DIR By: guest11
       Date: July 4, 2019, 5:41 pm
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       ...so let's all be very, very ashamed on this day. Never mind
       celebrating how this great country exists, let's pick it apart
       and bitch and fucking whine about every single negative thing we
       possibly can.
       WTF, you guys?
       It's nice to hear "thanks for your service", but I often find
       myself biting my tongue NOT to reply with the answer that often
       occurs to me.
       And I'm fucking sick of being called a fucking Nazi.
       Pardon me, I'm not feeling very "loving" today.
       #Post#: 4057--------------------------------------------------
       Re: July 4
   DIR By: AJ
       Date: July 4, 2019, 7:22 pm
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       --- Quote from: Danocoustic link ---
       >
       > ...so let's all be very, very ashamed on this day. Never mind
       celebrating how this great country exists, let's pick it apart
       and bitch and fucking whine about every single negative thing we
       possibly can.
       >
       > WTF, you guys?
       >
       > It's nice to hear "thanks for your service", but I often find
       myself biting my tongue NOT to reply with the answer that often
       occurs to me.
       >
       > And I'm fucking sick of being called a fucking Nazi.
       >
       > Pardon me, I'm not feeling very "loving" today.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I meant the thanks in a genuinely respectful way Bro.
       The person that lumped you in with nazis has informed he has
       left this forum.
       No one else here thinks of you that way.
       The beauty of this country is you can think the way you want to,
       express those thoughts the way you want to. You can also hold
       sacred, or disdain anything.
       #Post#: 4058--------------------------------------------------
       Re: July 4
   DIR By: guest11
       Date: July 4, 2019, 8:04 pm
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       --- Quote from: AJ link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Danocoustic link=topic=421.msg4056#msg4056
       date=1562280095]
       > ...so let's all be very, very ashamed on this day. Never mind
       celebrating how this great country exists, let's pick it apart
       and bitch and fucking whine about every single negative thing we
       possibly can.
       >
       > WTF, you guys?
       >
       > It's nice to hear "thanks for your service", but I often find
       myself biting my tongue NOT to reply with the answer that often
       occurs to me.
       >
       > And I'm fucking sick of being called a fucking Nazi.
       >
       > Pardon me, I'm not feeling very "loving" today.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I meant the thanks in a genuinely respectful way Bro.
       The person that lumped you in with nazis has informed he has
       left this forum.
       No one else here thinks of you that way.
       The beauty of this country is you can think the way you want to,
       express those thoughts the way you want to. You can also hold
       sacred, or disdain anything.
       [/quote]Ah hell, I sure didn't mean you, when I said I often
       bite my tongue.
       I'm in a totally shit mood. I apologize. This is a real tough
       day for me to begin with, and I just wish we could have ONE
       DAY---ah, screw it.
       RIP Robert Ernest Singer 17JAN1932-4JUL1980
       my father
       #Post#: 4059--------------------------------------------------
       Re: July 4
   DIR By: AJ
       Date: July 4, 2019, 8:32 pm
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       --- Quote from: Danocoustic link ---
       >
       > Ah hell, I sure didn't mean you, when I said I often bite my
       tongue.
       >
       > I'm in a totally shit mood. I apologize. This is a real tough
       day for me to begin with, and I just wish we could have ONE
       DAY---ah, screw it.
       >
       > RIP Robert Ernest Singer 17JAN1932-4JUL1980
       > my father
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       My dad was born in '32 as well. He also died in July...July
       16th, 1989.
       I know what you mean about having one day to...Well.....I know
       what you mean. We have to make those days for ourselves I guess.
       The Declaration of Independence is something beyond American
       really. I think it's worth celebrating as a treatise for freedom
       of thought. The fact that the nation it formed is still trying
       to realize the promise set forth by that document, is
       undeniable. The thing is, way back then, a few brave, somewhat
       crazy characters managed to put down in words an abject
       condemnation of tyranny.
       The ideals set forth in that document are worthy of praise. The
       sacrifices made should be honored. The sins should be accounted
       for as well.
       On July 4...It would be great, if as Americans we could all just
       stand together as Brothers and Sisters....And then take up our
       arguments with each other tomorrow.
       That just ain't the world we live in anymore, however. I don't
       think that world ever really was.
       So I put out my flag....Grilled some burgers and drank two
       beers. Tonight I'll be cussing the knuckleheads out shooting
       fireworks into the wee hours while I'm trying to get some sleep.
       'Cuz it's America...And i gotta work tomorrow.
       I go on call tomorrow night....I'm gonna be a bitchy bastard for
       the next 7 days and nights.
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