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Re: Looper Thread !
By: AJ Date: July 15, 2017, 10:48 am
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[quote author=indigo_dave link=topic=34.msg294#msg294
date=1500120275]
She sounds very good. One problem I'd have with her approach is
the guitar lick she looped. That limits her to playing guitar
chords that work with that tone. I noticed she seemed to play
just one chord with a quickly played 2nd chord, then going back
to the first chord. She chained herself to only being able to
play a couple of chords. In general, I would not do that. I
want the freedom to be able to alter the harmony (chord
changes). We're in a period where it's become very popular to
play music with only 2 to 4 chords played repeatedly - over and
over and over.
Not criticizing her performance, just the pop music trend of
simplistic limited harmony with no variation.
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The majority of music consumers are not players..They just know
what they like. As players, at one time or another we tend to
deconstruct things to see how they work and if they don't have a
level of sophistication we respect we kind of scratch our heads
and think, "What's the appeal?".
A lyric that touches a person, inflames a person, makes a person
smile..A beat that makes an ass shimmy or a foot tap...A riff,
lick or simple progression that sounds good...That's all Pop
music is about...And it's what sells......Can't blame anyone for
finding an audience.....
it's like my brother pointed out to me decades ago...When on a
road trip to see our sister in West Texas, we were alternating
tapes in the stereo..I'd just pulled out "Blow by Blow" by Jeff
Beck and he put in a Bad Company tape of his. After a few songs
he asked me if I liked them and I said not really. He seemed
stumped and asked why not. I said something along the lines of
the guitar playing being unimpressive, the lyrics being kind of
lame..He said, "Jimmy, what you don't understand is the rest of
us just like the overall jam".
I got it. It was like a light went off in my head. Didn't make
me a Bad Company fan but my little brother taught me that.
Players think critically.
Fans...and Music corp execs think overall jam.
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Re: Looper Thread !
By: indigo_dave Date: July 15, 2017, 3:51 pm
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Well people should like what they like. I think it's up to
musicians to listen critically, as in \think critically.
There's a whole big world of music out there. I love a lot of it
and don't love a lot of it. I've formed tastes and biases over
many decades. I'm a music wonk. At it's core I boil it down to
1) craft and 2) invention. And in general there's some factor
of familiarity - with surprises thrown in. I'm thinking of how
music works for us. I'm also stoned.
I'm looking at a small woodpecker right now. I haven't seen an
adult around though. Yesterday I saw a blue jay stuff something
in youngster's beak. Presumably food.
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Re: Looper Thread !
By: Luke17 Date: July 15, 2017, 3:56 pm
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good point AJ..BadCo was formulatic..
Paul Rodgers, IMHO one of the greatest vocalist and frontmen in
Rock ..but he was lame and shackled leading that group...
Simon Kirke and Paul had soared in Free.
Mick Ralphs reigned in Mott the Hoople ..
But..together as BadCo ( with dear Boz on bass) they lost their
identify and freedom..
just turning out formulatic pap for the record company and tone
deaf fans.
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Re: Looper Thread !
By: indigo_dave Date: July 16, 2017, 8:09 pm
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I remember Bad Company but can't recall a song. I'd recognize
them though. But remember some band called Bloodrock ? I think
their minor hit was "DOA". Creepy. The guy's overdosed and is
dead but still aware and awake withing his corpse. Or something
like that.
I was a pretty big Canned Heat fan in 1968. They were
missionaries for the blues. I think they pointed me toward some
blues. I also had "Fathers and Sons" with Muddy Waters,
Michael Bloomfield, Charlie Musselwhite, Duck Dunn, Otis Spann.
Otis Spann's piano playing caught my ear. It was simple enough
for me to copy. Although he was very fluid with those right
handed 2 consecutive note lick things.
The Russian gun group is "Right To Bear Arms". I'm going to do
a bit of reading about them. Putin's really fucking with us.
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Re: Looper Thread !
By: AJ Date: July 16, 2017, 10:38 pm
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[quote author=indigo_dave link=topic=34.msg307#msg307
date=1500253798]
I remember Bad Company but can't recall a song. I'd recognize
them though. But remember some band called Bloodrock ? I think
their minor hit was "DOA". Creepy. The guy's overdosed and is
dead but still aware and awake withing his corpse. Or something
like that.
I was a pretty big Canned Heat fan in 1968. They were
missionaries for the blues. I think they pointed me toward some
blues. I also had "Fathers and Sons" with Muddy Waters,
Michael Bloomfield, Charlie Musselwhite, Duck Dunn, Otis Spann.
Otis Spann's piano playing caught my ear. It was simple enough
for me to copy. Although he was very fluid with those right
handed 2 consecutive note lick things.
The Russian gun group is "Right To Bear Arms". I'm going to do
a bit of reading about them. Putin's really fucking with us.
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Bloodrock had a named "You broke my heart so I busted your
jaw".Not a really good song. But boy I was a Canned Heat fan as
well. I think their music still holds up and now I'm gonna have
to dig out the vinyl I have of their's and revisit it.
As uncool as it may sound, I can't say i was a true Muddy Waters
fan. I was a major fan of the players he influenced however. I
do have one Muddy Waters album that Johnny Winters produced and
sits in on.
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Re: Looper Thread !
By: indigo_dave Date: July 17, 2017, 2:05 pm
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I actually agree with much of what I've heard by MW. I heard
this on Bob's Scratchy Records and I dug it. I think it may be
from the '50's. Not sure. But that "Fathers and Sons" album had
some groovin' music with that band. Something about Muddy
Waters seems sloppy to me. Maybe it's just his unique style
doesn't appeal to me. Anyway this is , I think, the catchiest
song on the album. Maybe. This album was huge in my life circa
1968.
Walkin' Thru The Park
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MW Rolling Stone
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