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       #Post#: 2378--------------------------------------------------
       I'm just trying to figure out..
       By: AJ Date: May 7, 2018, 8:34 pm
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       ...What exactly is going through Trump's head. He's agreed to
       meet the Leader of North Korea, a guy from a country that
       despite numerous agreements not to pursue nukes, did anyway.
       Yet, against advice to the contrary from more level headed
       people, is going to tear up the Iran deal.
       Now, it's more than probable that Iran is secretly working on
       nukes anyway. So perhaps the agreement loosens their purse
       strings enough to allow more development. But it would seem that
       chucking the deal entirely would simply give Iran a whole WTF
       attitude to go whole hog in development.
       It's hard to do anything in secret in today's world. I would
       think that keeping the deal up would at least require them to do
       it in the dark, therefore slowing it all down. If they want the
       bomb, they'll get it anyway.
       I just don't know what Trump is thinking and I fear he has the
       focus of a chicken on this shit.
       #Post#: 2383--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I'm just trying to figure out..
       By: indigo_dave Date: May 8, 2018, 8:04 am
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       First of all, let me repeat my snarky take on our Prez.  He's
       nuanced.  He's an idiot wrapped inside of an asshole - sort of
       like a Tootsie Roll Pop. Second of all, much of what he says
       means nothing.  He bullshits and lies like you and I breathe in
       and out. It's a natural function for him.
       I think that France's Macron,  Germany's Merkel and U.K.'s Boris
       Johnson have all talked to him to try and convince him to stay
       in the Iran deal.  The fucking 1st  Idiot (a.k.a.  Orange Prez)
       is against anything Obama put into place.  Obama was thinking
       about the future.  The 1st Idiot thinks about what will appeal
       to his base - right now.  His base seems to only care about 1)
       abortion and 2) undoing things like those liberal controls on
       things like carcinogenic pollutants.
       I say YES.  Let's overturn those liberal regulations on
       pollutants.  I heard an NPR piece recently about a neurotoxin
       that's going to be re-allowed in Salmon farming in Washington
       state.  I say Hell yeah !  Cancer and neurological maladies are
       good for business !  Hospitals and cancer clinics will profit.
       I could go on and on.  From what I've gathered,  responsible
       parties say it's better to have the capability to monitor
       Iranian activity.
       #Post#: 2384--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I'm just trying to figure out..
       By: indigo_dave Date: May 8, 2018, 5:51 pm
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       And Big Orange did it. I think this has at least partially
       something to do with pleasing Israel and the evangelical
       Christians. Part of his base.
       #Post#: 2385--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I'm just trying to figure out..
       By: AJ Date: May 8, 2018, 6:07 pm
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       I guess now we're just waiting for the next shoe to drop.
       I hope Mueller has some serious shit on the bastard.
       #Post#: 2386--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I'm just trying to figure out..
       By: indigo_dave Date: May 9, 2018, 5:42 pm
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       Seems like Michael Avanati droped a shoe yesterday with the news
       about deposits into Michael Cohen's shell company.  Maybe by
       Russian related companies.
       #Post#: 2387--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I'm just trying to figure out..
       By: AJ Date: May 9, 2018, 6:18 pm
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       ...Yeah, I'm fairly up to speed on this....I think Cohen is in a
       shitpot full of trouble. Money laundering, obstruction...Whether
       it will get tied to Trump is another matter legally though.
       Apparently,  opting out of the Iran deal is going to be a bad
       deal for a lot of companies here as well as abroad. The energy
       sector has been in the process of doing some big petro refits
       for the aging Iranian refining sector. Boeing Aircraft stands to
       lose 19 billion dollars in sales, the French and The Germans
       have invested heavily in Iran since the sanctions got pulled
       during Obama's time in office.
       Y' know....If ya hit enough important people in the pocket
       book...
       #Post#: 2389--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I'm just trying to figure out..
       By: bieke Date: May 10, 2018, 8:06 am
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       oh well, as a euro dude, it's reassuring to read these comments
       I just don't see any any political solution on the horizon
       Trump is not going away any time soon, second term even
       and Mueller is not going to prevent this
       Dems could if they pull their act together
       mid term will be good indicator
       GOP is going up in the polls
       #Post#: 2390--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I'm just trying to figure out..
       By: AJ Date: May 10, 2018, 6:34 pm
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       I can't even imagine what we look like to people in Europe. Like
       Asses I guess.
       The midterm elections will say a lot about us.
       Personally...The Dems are just as unsavory as the Gop...They are
       just a bit more civilized.
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